101 BEST Aviation Attractions

As a complimentary site to my new book "101 Best Aviation Attractions", I
have activated a new website at http://www.flyingsbest.com Half of this site
does FlyIn CampOut issues the other Aviation Attractions. The book will be
released by McGraw-Hill in Late April. Amazon is already selling it. Hope
this helps some of ya'll.

Also best wishes to my usual detractors who will doubtless crawl out from
beneath their rocks! I do hope they speak the truth this time, but am
reasonably certain they won't. Why should their pattern change? Fortunately
most members of this news group pay little attention to them anyway.

--
John Purner
Editor - The $100 Hamburger
http://www.100dollarhamburger.com

"John Purner" writes:

Also best wishes to my usual detractors who will doubtless crawl out from
beneath their rocks! I do hope they speak the truth this time, but am
reasonably certain they won't. Why should their pattern change? Fortunately
most members of this news group pay little attention to them anyway.

Wow! Whiney spew like that makes *me* want to be a detractor. I'm
looking forward to hearing what they have to say.

--kyler

In article , Kyler Laird
wrote:

Wow! Whiney spew like that makes *me* want to be a detractor. I'm
looking forward to hearing what they have to say.

And just who is "they"?

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:26:59 GMT "John Purner" wrote:

As a complimentary site to my new book "101 Best Aviation Attractions", I
have activated a new website at http://www.flyingsbest.com Half of this site
does FlyIn CampOut issues the other Aviation Attractions. The book will be
released by McGraw-Hill in Late April. Amazon is already selling it. Hope
this helps some of ya'll.


How long before you take all that camping info you're waiting for others to fill
in for you so you can make a book out of it too?

I'm sure the museum book will not be far behind.


Note to guy collecting camping sites at airports, place a copyright on your work!


R. Hubbell


Also best wishes to my usual detractors who will doubtless crawl out from
beneath their rocks! I do hope they speak the truth this time, but am
reasonably certain they won't. Why should their pattern change? Fortunately
most members of this news group pay little attention to them anyway.

--
John Purner
Editor - The $100 Hamburger
http://www.100dollarhamburger.com

Note to R. Hubbell increase your medication.

--
John Purner
Editor - The $100 Hamburger
http://www.100dollarhamburger.com
"R.Hubbell" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:26:59 GMT "John Purner"
wrote:

As a complimentary site to my new book "101 Best Aviation Attractions",
I
have activated a new website at http://www.flyingsbest.com Half of this
site
does FlyIn CampOut issues the other Aviation Attractions. The book will
be
released by McGraw-Hill in Late April. Amazon is already selling it.
Hope
this helps some of ya'll.


How long before you take all that camping info you're waiting for others
to fill
in for you so you can make a book out of it too?

I'm sure the museum book will not be far behind.


Note to guy collecting camping sites at airports, place a copyright on
your work!


R. Hubbell


Also best wishes to my usual detractors who will doubtless crawl out
from
beneath their rocks! I do hope they speak the truth this time, but am
reasonably certain they won't. Why should their pattern change?
Fortunately
most members of this news group pay little attention to them anyway.

--
John Purner
Editor - The $100 Hamburger
http://www.100dollarhamburger.com

"R.Hubbell" wrote in
:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:26:59 GMT "John Purner"
wrote:

As a complimentary site to my new book "101 Best Aviation
Attractions", I have activated a new website at
http://www.flyingsbest.com Half of this site does FlyIn CampOut
issues the other Aviation Attractions. The book will be released by
McGraw-Hill in Late April. Amazon is already selling it. Hope this
helps some of ya'll.


How long before you take all that camping info you're waiting for
others to fill in for you so you can make a book out of it too?

I'm sure the museum book will not be far behind.


Note to guy collecting camping sites at airports, place a copyright on
your work!


R. Hubbell


Also best wishes to my usual detractors who will doubtless crawl out
from beneath their rocks! I do hope they speak the truth this time,
but am reasonably certain they won't. Why should their pattern
change? Fortunately most members of this news group pay little
attention to them anyway.

--
John Purner
Editor - The $100 Hamburger
http://www.100dollarhamburger.com



Uh, when a guy makes the gathered info FREE on a website, AND publishes
it in a book, I cannot fault him.....

--
ET


"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 20:16:39 GMT ET wrote:

"R.Hubbell" wrote in
:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:26:59 GMT "John Purner"
wrote:

As a complimentary site to my new book "101 Best Aviation
Attractions", I have activated a new website at
issues the other Aviation Attractions. The book will be released by
McGraw-Hill in Late April. Amazon is already selling it. Hope this
helps some of ya'll.


How long before you take all that camping info you're waiting for
others to fill in for you so you can make a book out of it too?

I'm sure the museum book will not be far behind.


Note to guy collecting camping sites at airports, place a copyright on
your work!


R. Hubbell


Also best wishes to my usual detractors who will doubtless crawl out
from beneath their rocks! I do hope they speak the truth this time,
but am reasonably certain they won't. Why should their pattern
change? Fortunately most members of this news group pay little
attention to them anyway.

--
John Purner
Editor - The $100 Hamburger



Uh, when a guy makes the gathered info FREE on a website, AND publishes
it in a book, I cannot fault him.....

Since you don't seem to know what's going on I will tell you. The camping
site you say he's hosting is waiting to be filled in by anyone willing to
fill it in. Right now it's empty. Once you've put that up on his site
it's his (see the copyright on his site) then he creates a book from other
peoples' contributions and he collects the $$$.


What are you waiting for? Get on over there and fill it in for him!


R. Hubbell


--
ET


"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

"R.Hubbell" writes:

Uh, when a guy makes the gathered info FREE on a website, AND publishes
it in a book, I cannot fault him.....

Since you don't seem to know what's going on I will tell you. The camping
site you say he's hosting is waiting to be filled in by anyone willing to
fill it in. Right now it's empty. Once you've put that up on his site
it's his (see the copyright on his site) then he creates a book from other
peoples' contributions and he collects the $$$.

Setting aside his poor socialization, do you really fault him for this
process? It isn't as though he tricks people into giving him the rights
to their content, is it? Is it any different from what AirNav does?

Of course I would love to see a community-based system (and I'd be happy
to host it) to collect such comments and make them available to everyone
to use, but I'm having trouble faulting him for fully-informed people
choosing to turn over the rights to their comments.

--kyler

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 13:21:44 GMT Kyler Laird wrote:

"R.Hubbell" writes:

Uh, when a guy makes the gathered info FREE on a website, AND publishes
it in a book, I cannot fault him.....

Since you don't seem to know what's going on I will tell you. The camping
site you say he's hosting is waiting to be filled in by anyone willing to
fill it in. Right now it's empty. Once you've put that up on his site
it's his (see the copyright on his site) then he creates a book from other
peoples' contributions and he collects the $$$.

Setting aside his poor socialization, do you really fault him for this
process? It isn't as though he tricks people into giving him the rights


I remember back when Usenet FAQs were getting pilfered and turned into books.
There are too many contributors for just one to claim ownership. It's stuff
like this that turned a lot of people away from Usenet.



to their content, is it? Is it any different from what AirNav does?


I don't know what airnav does with that? are they making books from it
too?


Of course I would love to see a community-based system (and I'd be happy
to host it) to collect such comments and make them available to everyone

Someone's already collecting the camping info and has offered to host it.



to use, but I'm having trouble faulting him for fully-informed people
choosing to turn over the rights to their comments.


I think it's fine if people want to write his book for him. I don't think
the other poster grasped that. Maybe they did. It's cheesy to me to have
other people write your content, slap your name on it and publish. It's
akin to plagiarism or maybe it is plagiarism. IANAL.



R. Hubbell


--kyler

R.Hubbell wrote:

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 13:21:44 GMT Kyler Laird wrote:


"R.Hubbell" writes:


Uh, when a guy makes the gathered info FREE on a website, AND publishes
it in a book, I cannot fault him.....

Since you don't seem to know what's going on I will tell you. The camping
site you say he's hosting is waiting to be filled in by anyone willing to
fill it in. Right now it's empty. Once you've put that up on his site
it's his (see the copyright on his site) then he creates a book from other
peoples' contributions and he collects the $$$.

Setting aside his poor socialization, do you really fault him for this
process? It isn't as though he tricks people into giving him the rights



I remember back when Usenet FAQs were getting pilfered and turned into books.
There are too many contributors for just one to claim ownership. It's stuff
like this that turned a lot of people away from Usenet.




wrong. What turned people away from usenet are, in order:

1. the fact that you need a special kind of client to participate and as
a result 99.99% of net users don't even know of usenet's existence
2. the extremely poor quality of the discourse and content (this
newsgroup is a rare exception), which gets worse every year (sadly this
newsgroup, while it hasn't sunk to the level of most of usenet, is not
an exception to that rule, as evidenced by this very sub-thread of
complanining about someone's post and all the BS about whether or nt Jay
was spamming)
3. the hair-trigger posturing and ad hominem attacks that became so
common, often but not always related to #2 above.
4. the spam
5. all the people complaining about the spam and calling other people's
posts spam at the slightest provocation.

As someone who has been on usenet since 1988 and now only bothers to
look at 4 newsgroups I think I know something about this.