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Old September 18th 10, 03:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Gaetan Trudel
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Hi
I have a 20 year old electronic vario from LX in my glider. It does
what it should be doing very well in my opinion. But I never fly with
any other vario. I see many new vario, LX,Tasmann, Westerboer... and
so on.
Is there technical progress that make my 20 year old vario obsolete
and justify spending money on the latest vario?
I am often attracted to gadget.
Regards
Gilles
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Old September 18th 10, 04:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dave Nadler
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On Sep 18, 10:51*am, Gaetan Trudel wrote:
Hi
I have a 20 year old electronic vario from LX in my glider. It does
what it should be doing very well in my opinion. But I never fly with
any other vario. I see many new vario, LX,Tasmann, Westerboer... and
so on.
Is there technical progress that make my 20 year old vario obsolete
and justify spending money on the latest vario?
I am often attracted to gadget.
Regards
Gilles


Depends on what kind of flying you do,
and whether you like to spend money ;-)
Do you fly XC ? Where ? What glider ?
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Old September 18th 10, 04:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Cochrane[_2_]
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On Sep 18, 9:51*am, Gaetan Trudel wrote:
Hi
I have a 20 year old electronic vario from LX in my glider. It does
what it should be doing very well in my opinion. But I never fly with
any other vario. I see many new vario, LX,Tasmann, Westerboer... and
so on.
Is there technical progress that make my 20 year old vario obsolete
and justify spending money on the latest vario?
I am often attracted to gadget.
Regards
Gilles


Yes. New varios are better than old varios. (I don't know LX, but
newer cambridge are much better than older cambridge for sure.) You
center better, climb better, and sometimes catch a thermal you would
miss otherwise. Second to good installation, a great and well-
calibrated vario is the single most important investment you can make
for thermaling and cross country performance.

A mild opinion, for once

John Cochrane
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Old September 18th 10, 11:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andy[_1_]
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On Sep 18, 8:58*am, John Cochrane
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newer cambridge are much better than older cambridge for sure.)


Maybe, maybe not. I still think the MNAV vario was very nice and I
never felt quite as good about the 302.

Andy

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Old September 19th 10, 03:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tony[_5_]
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On Sep 18, 5:49*pm, Andy wrote:
On Sep 18, 8:58*am, John Cochrane
wrote:

newer cambridge are much better than older cambridge for sure.)


Maybe, maybe not. I still think the MNAV vario was very nice and I
never felt quite as good about the 302.

Andy


i've got a mechanical Winter in the Cherokee and I'm kind of afraid to
replace it. After 5 years together I really know how to read that
vario and use it to center lift fairly quickly I think. I am tuned to
the glider and the vario. The three of us are a system.
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Old September 19th 10, 04:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mark628CA
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Hi-

I have a 50,000 year old method of starting a fire using two sticks
and a lot of patience. Have there been enough technological advances
to make it worthwhile spending the money to upgrade to what I
understand are called "matches," or possibly the latest butane powered
fire starters?

Please reply soon, as winter is coming.
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Old September 19th 10, 05:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Brad[_2_]
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On Sep 18, 8:41*pm, Mark628CA wrote:
Hi-

I have a 50,000 year old method of starting a fire using two sticks
and a lot of patience. Have there been enough technological advances
to make it worthwhile spending the money to upgrade to what I
understand are called "matches," or possibly the latest butane powered
fire starters?

Please reply soon, as winter is coming.


I'll trade you my Makiki Pellet vario for some of those, what did you
call them again......matches?

Brad
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Old September 19th 10, 03:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mike Ash
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Mark628CA wrote:

Hi-

I have a 50,000 year old method of starting a fire using two sticks
and a lot of patience. Have there been enough technological advances
to make it worthwhile spending the money to upgrade to what I
understand are called "matches," or possibly the latest butane powered
fire starters?

Please reply soon, as winter is coming.


These "matches" may be fine for retired rich folk, and are probably
useful for competing in the World Fire Championship, but they completely
ignore the reality of the current state of fire in the US. How do you
expect young pyromaniacs to participate in fire when they have to pay
for matches, on top of tuition and books and all the rest?

No young people show up at my fire pit expecting to see shiny new
matches, and none of them get scared away by people rubbing sticks
together. They just want fire, they don't care about the latest shiny
doodads. If everybody upgrades to matches, it will kill the sport!

(Was that about right?)

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Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon
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Old September 20th 10, 01:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell
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On 9/18/2010 7:23 PM, Tony wrote:
On Sep 18, 5:49 pm, wrote:

Maybe, maybe not. I still think the MNAV vario was very nice and I
never felt quite as good about the 302.

Andy

i've got a mechanical Winter in the Cherokee and I'm kind of afraid to
replace it. After 5 years together I really know how to read that
vario and use it to center lift fairly quickly I think. I am tuned to
the glider and the vario. The three of us are a system.


You'll get used to a new one in a few flights, and you don't have get
rid of the Winter. Lots of pilots like mechanical as a backup. You
should get a vario with an audio, though!

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- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl

- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation Mar/2004" Much of what you need to know tinyurl.com/yfs7tnz

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Old September 20th 10, 09:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tony[_5_]
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On Sep 19, 7:13*pm, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On 9/18/2010 7:23 PM, Tony wrote:

On Sep 18, 5:49 pm, *wrote:


Maybe, maybe not. I still think the MNAV vario was very nice and I
never felt quite as good about the 302.


Andy


i've got a mechanical Winter in the Cherokee and I'm kind of afraid to
replace it. After 5 years together I really know how to read that
vario and use it to center lift fairly quickly I think. *I am tuned to
the glider and the vario. The three of us are a system.


You'll get used to a new one in a few flights, and you don't have get
rid of the Winter. Lots of pilots like mechanical as a backup. You
should get a vario with an audio, though!

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (netto to net to email me)

- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarmhttp://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl

- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation Mar/2004" Much of what you need to know tinyurl.com/yfs7tnz


I know i need to get audio Eric. I'm still holding out that I'll win
the Clear Nav raffle at New Castle...But yea I should work on freeing
up enough panel space for another vario.
 




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