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In a previous article, Jay Somerset said:
The proper request would have been for a "stop & go". Why do you, like the controller, assume that he wanted to go again? He asked for a full stop, perhaps that's what he wanted? When I'm doing night currency, I'll fly to a nearby (just outside the inner ring of the class C) uncontrolled field. The runway is pretty short, so I'll do a full stop and taxi back each time. No worry about rules against touch-and-go, and no worries about landing long and not noticing the end of the runway approaching fast in the dark. -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ "I'm fairly sure Linux exists principally because writing an operating system probably seems like a good way to pass the bignum months of darkness in Finland" - Rodger Donaldson |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message nk.net... "Jay Somerset" wrote in message ... The proper request would have been for a "stop & go". What airport prohibits touch and goes but allows stop and goes? There is always the stop and taxi back option, not as convenient but ok for currency. |
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 00:40:41 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote in et:: "Jay Somerset" wrote in message .. . The proper request would have been for a "stop & go". What airport prohibits touch and goes but allows stop and goes? What is the reasoning behind full-stop landings for night currency? If one performs stop-and-goes (presumably adequate to meet the FAR requirement), there is no more night taxi experience gained than with touch-and-goes. Is it a safety issue? I must be overlooking something. |
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... The controller may have had a brain fart ...
I keep hearing this term "brain fart." Is this a product of butt heads? Good question. It is a truly stupid phrase which has unfortunately seemed to have really caught on lately. |
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Thanks! Actually, I did say 'tower', not 'ground', that was a mistype.
And I already bought Say Again, Please and am reading it. |
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Ben Hallert wrote:
Thanks! Actually, I did say 'tower', not 'ground', that was a mistype. And I already bought Say Again, Please and am reading it. I would add to what the other responders have said that *in general* it is a bad idea IMO to try to impute emotion or motivation based on an ATC transmission. Don't worry about the controller's feelings. Just interpret the instruction literally, request clarification if necessary, and exercise your pilot authority accordingly. Dave |
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I would add to what the other responders have said that *in general* it is a bad idea IMO to try to impute emotion or motivation based on an ATC transmission. Don't worry about the controller's feelings. Just interpret the instruction literally, request clarification if necessary, and exercise your pilot authority accordingly. And remember, they are just government employees. Their level of competence and flexibility never did recover from the strike. Karl |
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"kage" wrote in message ... And remember, they are just government employees. Their level of competence and flexibility never did recover from the strike. Actually, the best controllers never went on strike, it's just that standards have declined markedly since then. |
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"kage" wrote in message
... And remember, they are just government employees. Their level of competence and flexibility never did recover from the strike. Having spent time in both government and private sector jobs, I can attest that there are large numbers of incompetent people employed in both sectors. Government employees are no more likely to be incompetent than non-government employees. Furthermore, having spent a fair amount of time dealing with ATC, I can attest that there are numerous controllers who are both competent and flexible, to a high degree. Pete |
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