pilots only, please - gps or altimeter?

rather than hijack a perfectly good arcane science thread; i'll start a
new one 'cause the core question is a darn good one.

hypothetical situation: you're a blue sky vfr flyer and somehow you
wind up in the soup - after having gone 2 hours and 200 miles from your
take-off point , you wake up from a nice little nap and discover you're
inside the milk bottle.

gps(not waas) says nearest airport of any kind is 30 minutes away and
gas-totalizer says the fan stops in 10 minutes.

not mountainous but you ain't in kansas either todo...whatcha gunna
do??

really.

dan

houstondan writes:

gps(not waas) says nearest airport of any kind is 30 minutes away and
gas-totalizer says the fan stops in 10 minutes.

GPS is reliable for this type of issue, even without WAAS. Just don't
rely on it to determine your altitude.

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what part of "pilots only" do you not understand? you have your thread
and your opinion has been heard. now go away. many real pilots will not
participate if you're in the thread and i'm really trying to talk to
them.

dan
Mxsmanic wrote:
houstondan writes:

gps(not waas) says nearest airport of any kind is 30 minutes away and
gas-totalizer says the fan stops in 10 minutes.

GPS is reliable for this type of issue, even without WAAS. Just don't
rely on it to determine your altitude.

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Why is there only 10 minutes of fuel on board?

houstondan writes:

what part of "pilots only" do you not understand?

I understand it, but you are not the master of this newsgroup, and if
it pleases me to reply, I will.

many real pilots will not
participate if you're in the thread and i'm really trying to talk to
them.

Any real pilot who refuses to participate solely because of my
participation is not only a pilot but also a petulant little boy, and
since that would not bode well for the quality of his replies, it may
be just as well if he abstains.

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Sexist son of a bitch.

Jim



"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Any real pilot who refuses to participate solely because of my
participation is not only a pilot but also a petulant little boy, and
since that would not bode well for the quality of his replies, it may
be just as well if he abstains.

You'd do better by listening to MX on the subect of GPS. He has shown a
greater understanding of GPS than most of the pilots here.

Karl


"houstondan" wrote in message
ups.com...
what part of "pilots only" do you not understand? you have your thread
and your opinion has been heard. now go away. many real pilots will not
participate if you're in the thread and i'm really trying to talk to
them.

dan
Mxsmanic wrote:
houstondan writes:

gps(not waas) says nearest airport of any kind is 30 minutes away and
gas-totalizer says the fan stops in 10 minutes.

GPS is reliable for this type of issue, even without WAAS. Just don't
rely on it to determine your altitude.

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....no, karl, that simply is not true and that's why i framed it the way
i have. it really relates to the totality of the systems and conditions
and not just the simple math. look at the responses that pilots are
giving.

can't you see the difference?

ever hear about how, if a pilot makes an air-traffic mistake the pilot
can die but that if an air traffic controller makes an air traffic
mistake...the pilot can die.

there is a qualitative difference between the thoughts of someone
reading a book and someone living it.

once you've heard the tape of a vfr into i.m.c. situation you'll know
what i'm talking about.

dan





dan
karl gruber wrote:
You'd do better by listening to MX on the subect of GPS. He has shown a
greater understanding of GPS than most of the pilots here.

Karl


"houstondan" wrote in message
ups.com...
what part of "pilots only" do you not understand? you have your thread
and your opinion has been heard. now go away. many real pilots will not
participate if you're in the thread and i'm really trying to talk to
them.

dan
Mxsmanic wrote:
houstondan writes:

gps(not waas) says nearest airport of any kind is 30 minutes away and
gas-totalizer says the fan stops in 10 minutes.

GPS is reliable for this type of issue, even without WAAS. Just don't
rely on it to determine your altitude.

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houstondan writes:

...no, karl, that simply is not true and that's why i framed it the way
i have. it really relates to the totality of the systems and conditions
and not just the simple math. look at the responses that pilots are
giving.

The simple math alone rules out the necessary accuracy, making the
rest of the system moot. If you depend on GPS for altitude
information, you may kill yourself while flying. It's as simple as
that.

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"karl gruber" wrote:

You'd do better by listening to MX on the subect of GPS. He has shown a
greater understanding of GPS than most of the pilots here.

No, he hasn't.

In Dan's hypothetical situation, a GPS would be fine for determining
altitude--better than an altimeter.

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Dan
C172RG at BFM