Too Old?

"Pietro" wrote in message
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"Lonnie" @_#~#@.^net wrote in
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How old are you, and why the special?

Pushing 70 and well-controlled Type II Diabetes (A1C=6.0 and
decreasing) and Chronic lymphocytic leukemia.

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I'm very sorry to hear that. I wish you the best of luck with your
situation.

I've always thought when I'm eventually facing the same dilemma, I'll look
for a younger pilot that wants to build some time to fly right seat.

In rec.aviation.owning Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

Both driving and flying under the influence of alcohol are illegal.

But being a drinker or smoker is not. You can drink and smoke regularly (both
of which vastly increase the likelihood of problems that may incapacitate you
in the air), and the FAA doesn't care, as long as you don't drink in the eight
hours before flying (and there's no prohibition on smoking at all, so
conceivably you could smoke in the cockpit).

Babbling nonsense.

If the smoking or drinking were to eventually cause a problem that could
become incapacitating, and that takes lots of years, the problem would
would be cause to fail the medical.

And yet, at the same time, if you've ever had, say, a bad headache, the FAA
can deny your medical.

More babbling nonsense.

You have no clue what the standards are.

There is no correlation between smoking and accident rates for either
driving or flying.

Smoking significantly increases the risk of incapacitating cardiovascular or
respiratory problems. It also increases the risk of altitude-related problems
that may be incapacitating.

More babbling nonsense.

If one develops cardiovascular or respiratory problems, they fail the
medical because they have cardiovascular or respiratory problems, not
because they smoke.

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Jim Pennino

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk @See My Sig.com writes:

Yes. Not sure, but he is retired from air shows. Yes - he got a medical
in
Austrailia and continued with air shows for a while (just not in the US).
The FAA finally conceeded to restoring his medical after a round through
the courts.

"If they can do it to Bob Hoover, they can do it to anyone."

On what basis did they deny his medical in the U.S.?

Google is your only friend, go argue with it.

http://meer.net/users/waa/freehoover.html

Had to jump in on this one too. I have a good friend at my airport, Jon
Weiss, who is currently 89 depending on which day you ask him. He retired
from American when the new on the 707's hadn't worn off yet! He has a pace
maker and still has a medical, is a CFI (still does BFR's and tailwheel
checkouts), and an IA. He's at the airport every day or so and still flies
at least every couple of weeks. Just finished restoring a Fairchild 22 he's
owned since the early 50's. Got bored after that and bought a cub that
needed some TLC. He has a Super Cub, Fairchild 22, J-3, and a Beech Travel
Air. I fly with him occasionally and he's still got it. Last year while
flying a Champ for a friend of ours who wasn't tailwheel current, the engine
locked up between airports. He put it in a pretty short field without a
scratch. I'd fly with him anywhere, any time.
Hell I'm 35 and would be happy to have his energy and enthusiasm most days!
He isn't gonna win a marathon, but he still drives, flies, and works on his
own airplanes, and all competently as I see it. I could drop dead just as
easily as he could. If you're still able in mind and body, and doing it on
a personal, not for hire basis, I say keep em flying!
And a few months ago, he renewed the lease on his hangar. He said he didn't
want to take any chances, so he signed a 25 year lease!! Hell, he may make
it!
CJ

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On Aug 31, 11:39 pm, Stella Starr wrote:
Ramsey wrote:

If you call that an answer, you're a dumb ass.

Boy, you sure contribute a lot to the discussion.
Bet you're proud when people google all your thoughtful
contributions. Why bother?

Well Stella, what do you expect from someone
named after a condom?
Lou

A Ramsey condom? Yep, you're a dumb ass.

But not to worry, it's not too late.You and Stella can still answer
him directly and fill this thread out to 200 or 300 posts as usual.

Arguing the fine points of yanking the medical of thousands of
healthy pilots, just because of their age, could make a really nice
fire that would
undoubtedly burn for days.

So by all means, have at it.

You really couldn't be this stupid, could you?
Lou

No, but apparently you could.



Whoosh.


Bertie

Dudley Henriques writes:

This is the basis for what I have envisioned as a "plan" to shorten the
period between physicals as a pilot ages.

The intervals should not be based on age; they should based on the results of
the previous medical exam.

In other words, someone who is on the borderline but passes at one point
should have another medical at an earlier date than someone who passes the
medical with nothing to be concerned about.

Age is largely irrelevant. There's no point in a medical every 90 days for a
person who is 80 years old if he passes each of the medicals with flying
colors. Conversely, a 20-year-old who just barely squeaks by the medical with
some borderline condition should have another medical fairly soon. The
interval could be adjusted after each medical as a function of how the medical
turns out, with the date of the following medical being advanced or postponed
as appropriate.

That would be a truly representative and rational way to schedule medicals,
and there's no need for any age barriers at all.

Dudley Henriques writes:

Charging $100 to fill out a form is a gross over charge
and the only reason they can get away with it is because you HAVE to
have it.

Then again, if the doctor fills out the form and signs it for a pilot, and the
pilot later dies in flight, the doctor gets sued, even if the cause of death
had nothing to do with the doctor's evaluation. So it works both ways.

writes:

Are you familiar with the terms "Supremacy Clause" and "Federal Preemption"?

The mayor of Chicago seemed to have no problem with supremacy or preemption.
He destroyed an airport overnight and nothing happened, proving that anyone
can get away with it.

"Chris J" wrote in message
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Had to jump in on this one too. I have a good friend at my airport, Jon
Weiss, who is currently 89 depending on which day you ask him. He retired
from American when the new on the 707's hadn't worn off yet! He has a
pace maker and still has a medical, is a CFI (still does BFR's and
tailwheel checkouts), and an IA. He's at the airport every day or so and
still flies at least every couple of weeks. Just finished restoring a
Fairchild 22 he's owned since the early 50's. Got bored after that and
bought a cub that needed some TLC. He has a Super Cub, Fairchild 22, J-3,
and a Beech Travel Air. I fly with him occasionally and he's still got
it. Last year while flying a Champ for a friend of ours who wasn't
tailwheel current, the engine locked up between airports. He put it in a
pretty short field without a scratch. I'd fly with him anywhere, any
time.
Hell I'm 35 and would be happy to have his energy and enthusiasm most
days! He isn't gonna win a marathon, but he still drives, flies, and works
on his own airplanes, and all competently as I see it. I could drop dead
just as easily as he could. If you're still able in mind and body, and
doing it on a personal, not for hire basis, I say keep em flying!
And a few months ago, he renewed the lease on his hangar. He said he
didn't want to take any chances, so he signed a 25 year lease!! Hell, he
may make it!
CJ

Basically, he has a life; the and the safety-nuts and banners-of-everything
don't.

Peter

You're wrong again, and obviously know nothing about the medical process or
the practice of medicine.