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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 14:07:09 -0400, Eric Pinnell seemywebsite wrote:
One has to wonder why Mugabe wants modern air power, since his neighbors don't have much in the way of an air force, and air power isn't all that useful if there's an armed rebellion. His neighbour to the south does. -- "It's easier to find people online who openly support the KKK than people who openly support the RIAA" -- comment on Wikipedia (Email: zen19725 at zen dot co dot uk) |
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"Eric Pinnell" see my web site wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:28:32 +0100, (phil hunt) wrote: Why would they want one in Zimbabwe? maybe in 20 years time, but China isn't in a position to have worldwide power projection yet. Yeah, but they'd be in a position, for example, to stomp on third world tin pot dictatorships anytime they want. Hardly. Their reach leaves a lot to be desired; what kind of force do you think China can deploy halfway around the world from their own borders? Airpower? Nope, not hardly. Seapower? Gimme a break... no way. What you have in China is sort of your typical 600 pound gorilla at your local zoo, with a largely self-imposed wall keeping it from reaching beyond the limits of its cage; tinpot dictators located outside that cage can thumb their nose at the PRC anytime they want, risking only economic retribution at the worst (and few tinpot dictators are in a position to be too awful worried about economic sanctions from the PRC). If you see the PRC establishing some sort of expeditionary base in Zimbabwe, think again--ain't a likely outcome. Africa is a big mess, maybe China's looking to become a major player. The PRC is more worried about continuing to unravel its own mess, and contingencies much closer to home, so seeing them become heavily involved in Africa is a non-starter; this is not the era of Mao trying to export communism in the Congo. One has to wonder why Mugabe wants modern air power, since his neighbors don't have much in the way of an air force, and air power isn't all that useful if there's an armed rebellion. Like most despots, he probably feels empowered by having shiny new toys. hen again, his immediate southern neighbor is getting Gripens in the not-too-distant future, too. Guess you forgot about South Africa bordering him, eh? Brooks Eric Pinnell |
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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:27:51 -0400, Eric Pinnell seemywebsite wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 20:38:17 +0100, (phil hunt) wrote: His neighbour to the south does. Well, considering that South Africa is also communist, This is only true if you give common English word your own personal definitions which no-one else understands. Of course, when you do that, communication becomes impossible. -- "It's easier to find people online who openly support the KKK than people who openly support the RIAA" -- comment on Wikipedia (Email: zen19725 at zen dot co dot uk) |
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OK, my news server has been out the last few days, so I am trying this one
more time. If anyone has seen this before, my apologies.... What if Mugabe has diamonds, industrial and otherwise, to offer? Ones not going through the usual channels? Also, China gets to crow about sales of this system to someone when the US, Russia and Europe are already the big names on the sophisticated arms export block. |
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 14:07:09 -0400, Eric Pinnell see my web site wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:28:32 +0100, (phil hunt) wrote: Why would they want one in Zimbabwe? maybe in 20 years time, but China isn't in a position to have worldwide power projection yet. Yeah, but they'd be in a position, for example, to stomp on third world tin pot dictatorships anytime they want. Africa is a big mess, maybe China's looking to become a major player. One has to wonder why Mugabe wants modern air power, since his neighbors don't have much in the way of an air force, and air power isn't all that useful if there's an armed rebellion. Eric Pinnell (Author, "Steel Rain", "Claws of The Dragon", "The Omega File") For a preview, see: http://www.ericpinnell.com/books/previews.shtml IMHO Mugabe is a charter member of the "mine is bigger than yours" club. Like several other countries (i.e. India) he would rather have toys than feed his people. Al Minyard |
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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:00:26 +0100, (phil hunt)
wrote: This is only true if you give common English word your own personal definitions which no-one else understands. Of course, when you do that, communication becomes impossible. The ANC is a communist political party, or do you not understand the concept? Eric Pinnell (Author, "Steel Rain", "Claws of The Dragon", "The Omega File") For a preview, see: http://www.ericpinnell.com/books/previews.shtml |
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:22:05 -0400, Eric Pinnell see my web site
wrote: On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:00:26 +0100, (phil hunt) wrote: This is only true if you give common English word your own personal definitions which no-one else understands. Of course, when you do that, communication becomes impossible. The ANC is a communist political party, or do you not understand the concept? Hmm, the ANC... Holds free elections (just had one) Allows opposiiton parties to form freely Does not nationalise companies or production Allows free press Doesnt' sound too Communist to me. Peter Kemp |
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Peter Kemp wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:22:05 -0400, Eric Pinnell see my web site wrote: On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:00:26 +0100, (phil hunt) wrote: This is only true if you give common English word your own personal definitions which no-one else understands. Of course, when you do that, communication becomes impossible. The ANC is a communist political party, or do you not understand the concept? Hmm, the ANC... Holds free elections (just had one) Allows opposiiton parties to form freely Does not nationalise companies or production Allows free press Doesnt' sound too Communist to me. Peter Kemp So how come a vast majority of the ANC upper echelons are also members of the South African Communist party? |
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:29:27 -0400, Peter Kemp wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:22:05 -0400, Eric Pinnell see my web site wrote: On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:00:26 +0100, (phil hunt) wrote: This is only true if you give common English word your own personal definitions which no-one else understands. Of course, when you do that, communication becomes impossible. The ANC is a communist political party, or do you not understand the concept? Hmm, the ANC... Holds free elections (just had one) Allows opposiiton parties to form freely Does not nationalise companies or production Allows free press Doesnt' sound too Communist to me. Peter Kemp Ah, but you're speaking English, not Pinnellese. -- "It's easier to find people online who openly support the KKK than people who openly support the RIAA" -- comment on Wikipedia (Email: zen19725 at zen dot co dot uk) |
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