Stupid Newbie Pattern Question

"Morgans" wrote in message
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And you assume this is true, even in the wake of two pilots flying almost
to the Whitehouse?


I haven't assumed anything.



Lots more out there, where they came from. Argue all you want. Simple
fact is, not all are going to know what VOR's are where, all the time.


Yup, lots of clueless pilots out there.

"Morgans" wrote in message
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No, not at all. The poster said everyone should know where every VOR is
along their flight.


No poster said anything like that in this discussion.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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No, not at all. The poster said everyone should know where every VOR is
along their flight.

Seems to me, that is implied. If you were buzzing along, and someone made a
call, positioning himself at a VOR, you would need to know where it was, to
know if it was important to you, right? How would you know, if you did not
know where the VOR's along your flight were?
--
Jim in NC


No poster said anything like that in this discussion.

Morgans wrote:

Kinda obvious that many pilots are not nearly that
competant, since the ADIZ pilots could not handle anything as obvious as
Washington. I would bet that they also had no clue of the VOR's around.

There's every indication that they had a fair idea of where they were and
intended to be there. They just didn't know they weren't allowed to run the VFR
corridor anymore. They were only a little off course for that.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

Morgans wrote:

Seems to me, that is implied.

Doesn't seem implied to me at all. The original postulations involved multiple
aircraft approaching to land at an airport. That is a situation in which several
aircraft are known to be at the same altitude on courses which are more or less
converging. Knowing the location of the applicable VOR will tell you
approximately how close to converging those courses are. It's a *real* stretch
to say the same thing about cruise flight.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

"George Patterson" wrote

Doesn't seem implied to me at all.

It's a *real* stretch
to say the same thing about cruise flight.

I guess that depends somewhat on altitude and location of the cruiser.

Ahh, the old odd problem of interpretation. Doesn't really matter who is
right or wrong, only that multiple people reading the same information, see
a different thing. Happens all the time.

I guess that is why lawyers are still around. :-)
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in message
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Seems to me, that is implied.


It may seem that way to you, but it isn't that way.



If you were buzzing along, and someone made a call, positioning himself at
a
VOR, you would need to know where it was, to know if it was important to
you, right?


Well, if you're a competent pilot you'll know where it is so that's not a
problem. But if you're a competent pilot you don't buzz along over airports
at traffic pattern altitudes so that's not an issue. How is it you'd hear
these calls anyway?