Avgas price and the light plane ownership

Anyone worries about what the rising avgas price to the light plane
ownership in the U.S? I have absolutely no doubt that the average
avgas price will surpass $5/gallon in about 5 years. We'll probably
see a significant drop of GA flying, along with a big drop of the value
of used airplanes. It's really depressing just to think about it.

Maybe Lycoming should start researching Ethenol powered aero engines
:-) With global warming, we can turn Canada into a giant corn field.

On 1 Jul 2005 13:37:32 -0700, "M" wrote:


Anyone worries about what the rising avgas price to the light plane
ownership in the U.S? I have absolutely no doubt that the average
avgas price will surpass $5/gallon in about 5 years. We'll probably
see a significant drop of GA flying, along with a big drop of the value
of used airplanes. It's really depressing just to think about it.

I see avgas for well over $3.00 at many airports, so $5.00 can't be
too far away. I agree 100% that this will have a negative affect on
aircraft pricing, particularly those with larger engine(s).

"M" wrote in message
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Anyone worries about what the rising avgas price to the light plane
ownership in the U.S? I have absolutely no doubt that the average
avgas price will surpass $5/gallon in about 5 years. We'll probably
see a significant drop of GA flying, along with a big drop of the value
of used airplanes. It's really depressing just to think about it.

Maybe Lycoming should start researching Ethenol powered aero engines
:-) With global warming, we can turn Canada into a giant corn field.

Suddenly I feel a little better, we are around AUD $1.30 for AVGAS at
present.
This USA pricing is going to accelerate the development of these new fuel
efficient, longer TBO, less parts diesel cycle engines - just reading the
test on one in a C182 in Aust Flying Mag. However, AVTUR will probably then
go up in price.

Problem with ethanol is I believe it has less volumetric efficiency and more
prone to vapour lock but I'd be interested to hear comment.

My experience has been that alternative fuels start off well but when a
Government starts losing taxes on mainstream fuels as a consequence they
usually bump up the tax etc on the alternative fuel. LPG in Oz a classic
example.
Diesel out here is dearer than unleaded motor fuel, is a big user so not
more expensive to supply, and is cracked out of the refining process at an
earlier stage therefore probably cheaper to produce.
I might take up something cheaper like ocean yacht racing?
Brian

On 1-Jul-2005, "SR20GOER" wrote:

Suddenly I feel a little better, we are around AUD $1.30 for AVGAS at
present.



AUD $1.30 = USD $0.98. Are we talking per gallon here (and is it imperial
or US) or per liter?

-Elliott Drucker

"M" wrote in message
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Anyone worries about what the rising avgas price to the light plane
ownership in the U.S? I have absolutely no doubt that the average
avgas price will surpass $5/gallon in about 5 years. We'll probably
see a significant drop of GA flying, along with a big drop of the value
of used airplanes. It's really depressing just to think about it.

I suspect people said the same thing when av gas went past $.50 a gallon.
The price of gasoline is still well behind the inflation curve.

My income is very far behind the inflation curve as is the price of
wheat.

"Clay" wrote in message
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My income is very far behind the inflation curve as is the price of
wheat.

I would suggest a different source of income.

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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Anyone worries about what the rising avgas price to the light plane
ownership in the U.S? I have absolutely no doubt that the average
avgas price will surpass $5/gallon in about 5 years. We'll probably
see a significant drop of GA flying, along with a big drop of the value
of used airplanes. It's really depressing just to think about it.

I suspect people said the same thing when av gas went past $.50 a gallon.
The price of gasoline is still well behind the inflation curve.


Quite!

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Matt
--
"The American people will never knowingly
adopt socialism, but under the name of
liberalism they will adopt every fragment of
the socialist program until one day America
will be a socialist nation without ever knowing
how it happened." -- Norman Thomas, six-time
Socialist Party presidential candidate and
one of the founders of the ACLU.

Wayne LaPierre of the NRA, Ollie North, and Kenneth Starr all support
the ACLU. Does that mean they are socialists?

I fly, own an airplane, and I support the ACLU, although I think it
picks and chooses its cases with a touch of hypocrisy.

wrote in message
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Wayne LaPierre of the NRA, Ollie North, and Kenneth Starr all support
the ACLU. Does that mean they are socialists?

First, do you have a cite for LaPierre and North? Starr, being a lawyer,
probably would support them.

And yes, to an extend, North and Starr have a lot of socialist in them
(can't speak for LaPierre).

In any case, your point is a non-sequitur.

I fly, own an airplane, and I support the ACLU, although I think it
picks and chooses its cases with a touch of hypocrisy.

A _LOT_ of hypocrisy. Their original premise was not a matter of "principle
of free speech". It was to avoid stifling the Communist Party USA's
propaganda. Their main, original funding came from the Soviet NKVD (as
demonstrated by the Soviet Archives). When they take on the universities and
their speech code they'll have demonstrated they are no longer puppets.