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#61
April 12th 05, 07:30 PM
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"George Patterson" wrote in message news:SlT6e.6554$ff4.3707@trndny08... Bob Fry wrote: "Morgans" writes: I hear of a guy around my area who has not had a medical for 15 years. Which simply shows that a medical (esp. a 3rd class for hobby flying) is meaningless and should be eliminated. Maybe for that one guy. This 'shows' nothing, at all about whether or not "a medical ... is meaningless and should be eliminated", 3rd Class or otherwise. Not for that one guy, nor for any other. Nothing. Nada. Zero. 
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#62
April 12th 05, 07:38 PM
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There's a lot of people flying out there without medicals. Annuals too.
Ron McKinnon wrote: "George Patterson" wrote in message news:SlT6e.6554$ff4.3707@trndny08... Bob Fry wrote: "Morgans" writes: I hear of a guy around my area who has not had a medical for 15 years. Which simply shows that a medical (esp. a 3rd class for hobby flying) is meaningless and should be eliminated. Maybe for that one guy. This 'shows' nothing, at all about whether or not "a medical ... is meaningless and should be eliminated", 3rd Class or otherwise. Not for that one guy, nor for any other. Nothing. Nada. Zero.
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#63
April 12th 05, 09:27 PM
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"Ron McKinnon" wrote in message news:QsU6e.983868$6l.85862@pd7tw2no... "George Patterson" wrote in message news:SlT6e.6554$ff4.3707@trndny08... Bob Fry wrote: "Morgans" writes: I hear of a guy around my area who has not had a medical for 15 years. Which simply shows that a medical (esp. a 3rd class for hobby flying) is meaningless and should be eliminated. Maybe for that one guy. This 'shows' nothing, at all about whether or not "a medical ... is meaningless and should be eliminated", 3rd Class or otherwise. Not for that one guy, nor for any other. Nothing. Nada. Zero. Okay, Rod, get off the fence and tell us what you REALLY think!!!
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#64
April 12th 05, 09:28 PM
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Without licenses, without prescribed ratings...
"Newps" wrote in message ... There's a lot of people flying out there without medicals. Annuals too. Ron McKinnon wrote: "George Patterson" wrote in message news:SlT6e.6554$ff4.3707@trndny08... Bob Fry wrote: "Morgans" writes: I hear of a guy around my area who has not had a medical for 15 years. Which simply shows that a medical (esp. a 3rd class for hobby flying) is meaningless and should be eliminated. Maybe for that one guy. This 'shows' nothing, at all about whether or not "a medical ... is meaningless and should be eliminated", 3rd Class or otherwise. Not for that one guy, nor for any other. Nothing. Nada. Zero.
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#65
April 12th 05, 11:14 PM
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"G. Sylvester" wrote in message .......any time a person without a license goes flying and crashes it's no accident. That is expected as it is almost intentional. Yes. A person who flies without benefit of a Pilot Certificate is by definition unsafe. The rules say so. And all our acquaintances who dutifully carry their carefully laminated certificates are, of course, good and safe pilots because their certificates are on their persons. sigh.....
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#66
April 13th 05, 01:02 AM
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Grumman-581 wrote:
"Jimmy B." wrote in message nk.net... Yes, I have refused to fly with people who I felt were unsafe. I've also refused to fly as PIC with people who I felt were unsafe. Being PIC does nothing for you if the other person grabs the yoke on short final and you both wind up as a flaming ball of wreckage. Had that happen to me once... Before the flight, I had instructed him that he was under no circumstances to touch the controls... He freaked out during a bank, grabbed the yoke and his feet started pumping the rudder pedals... I put a right elbow with a significant amount of force into his upper torso area and he let go... If he hadn't, the next elbow was going to be going into his face... I won't fly with him again... Yep, that sounds a lot like my experience. Only, with me, I did a karate chop right to his Adam's apple. His gag reflex made him let go.
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#67
April 13th 05, 02:54 AM
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"Michelle P" wrote in message Having hours and confidence does help
knowing I can take the controls if necessary. What if the PIC scoffs at your concerns and does not relinquish the controls to you? D.
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#68
April 13th 05, 02:59 AM
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Capt.Doug wrote:
"Michelle P" wrote in message Having hours and confidence does help knowing I can take the controls if necessary. What if the PIC scoffs at your concerns and does not relinquish the controls to you? She said "knowing I can *take* the controls." She didn't say anything about the other guy giving them up willingly. (It's amazing what a #2 knitting needle can do.) :-) George Patterson There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the mashed potatoes.
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#69
April 13th 05, 01:09 PM
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message ...
Didn't he kill some of his victims on a college campus? Well, a college campus is a "Gun Free Zone". Depends upon the state... In Texas, it is the *buildings*, not the public areas outside the buildings... Even so, I consider those 'laws' just another of the anti-2nd-Amendment restrictions that the leftists have inflicted upon us over the years... What part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" do they not understand? Quite, but we need a "Relevancy Check" right about now! Not really... I'm always armed when I fly -- it's relevant...
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#70
April 13th 05, 01:13 PM
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"Jimmy B." wrote in message
ink.net... Yep, that sounds a lot like my experience. Only, with me, I did a karate chop right to his Adam's apple. His gag reflex made him let go. You must have either been in a larger plane or have shorter arms... grin
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