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"Dav1936531" wrote in message ... From: Nuk I'd say he was planning hit a squad of Marines, or a Humvee or APC or similar, but they saw him first and he found himself staring down the barrels of a few US Marines... Nah, you can see the bullets kick up clouds of dust in the street from both the chest and head shots. Whomever got him plainly shot him from a roof top, i.e., it was probably a sniper watching over a patrol....not a patroller. As I mentioned before, I think the Marine snipers are using bolt actions, however, I have seen some pics of US Army snipers carrying tricked up M-14 sniper variants. I am thinking this guy was had by an Army sniper because of the quick follow-up shot. Consequently, I also doubt this video is from the Fallujah action, since it was the Marines laying siege in Fallujah. I'm still trying to figure out why he was in the middle of a street, no cover, no camo... stupid, stupid, stupid... It's a "jihad" for Allah. Rationality plays little part. One wonders just exactly what the insurgents even think they are trying to accomplish. What will surely result if they gain supremacy is chaos, civil war, and the weakening of Iraq making it a tempting invasion target for the likes of Iran. So, if they think they are fighting for the good of Iraq, they are merely deluding themselves. Dave I'm not so sure, it sounded and awful lot like a SAW. Counted nine or ten shots fired, looks like the first couple severed his spine. The rest, chest and head, Great shooting!! T3 |
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"Drewe Manton" wrote in message . 4... I'm not even convinced it was a sniper shot. . .looked like automatic weapons fire to me. . repeated shooting and I picked out 2, maybe 3 tracer rounds. Do we even know where it was taken (I don't speak the language of the news reporter!).. might it have been Israel rather than Iraq? -- Regards Drewe "Better the pride that resides In a citizen of the world Than the pride that divides When a colourful rag is unfurled" No doubt about it, pretty sure it was a SAW. I've shot and heard enough of 'em to recognize it. T3 btw-It was in Iraq |
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"Dav1936531" wrote in message ... From: Nuk I'd say he was planning hit a squad of Marines, or a Humvee or APC or similar, but they saw him first and he found himself staring down the barrels of a few US Marines... Nah, you can see the bullets kick up clouds of dust in the street from both the chest and head shots. Whomever got him plainly shot him from a roof top, i.e., it was probably a sniper watching over a patrol....not a patroller. How many snipers do you know who use tracers? Smart money would instead be on him being engaged by an overwatching element (when contact is expected, bounding overwatch being the preferred maneuver scheme). As I mentioned before, I think the Marine snipers are using bolt actions, however, I have seen some pics of US Army snipers carrying tricked up M-14 sniper variants. I am thinking this guy was had by an Army sniper because of the quick follow-up shot. Consequently, I also doubt this video is from the Fallujah action, since it was the Marines laying siege in Fallujah. Most Army snipers use a Remington bolt action (M-24 IIRC) these days; your "tricked up" M-14 (actually known as the M-21) has been in the decline (if it is not completely replaced already) for years now. Brooks I'm still trying to figure out why he was in the middle of a street, no cover, no camo... stupid, stupid, stupid... It's a "jihad" for Allah. Rationality plays little part. One wonders just exactly what the insurgents even think they are trying to accomplish. What will surely result if they gain supremacy is chaos, civil war, and the weakening of Iraq making it a tempting invasion target for the likes of Iran. So, if they think they are fighting for the good of Iraq, they are merely deluding themselves. Dave |
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"T3" wrote in message om... "Dav1936531" wrote in message ... From: Nuk I'd say he was planning hit a squad of Marines, or a Humvee or APC or similar, but they saw him first and he found himself staring down the barrels of a few US Marines... Nah, you can see the bullets kick up clouds of dust in the street from both the chest and head shots. Whomever got him plainly shot him from a roof top, i.e., it was probably a sniper watching over a patrol....not a patroller. As I mentioned before, I think the Marine snipers are using bolt actions, however, I have seen some pics of US Army snipers carrying tricked up M-14 sniper variants. I am thinking this guy was had by an Army sniper because of the quick follow-up shot. Consequently, I also doubt this video is from the Fallujah action, since it was the Marines laying siege in Fallujah. I'm still trying to figure out why he was in the middle of a street, no cover, no camo... stupid, stupid, stupid... It's a "jihad" for Allah. Rationality plays little part. One wonders just exactly what the insurgents even think they are trying to accomplish. What will surely result if they gain supremacy is chaos, civil war, and the weakening of Iraq making it a tempting invasion target for the likes of Iran. So, if they think they are fighting for the good of Iraq, they are merely deluding themselves. Dave I'm not so sure, it sounded and awful lot like a SAW. Counted nine or ten shots fired, looks like the first couple severed his spine. The rest, chest and head, Great shooting!! I'd bet you are right about the weapon being used; SAW with standard intermittent tracer load. Brooks T3 |
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On 18 Jun 2004 12:00:25 GMT, Drewe Manton
wrote: I'm not even convinced it was a sniper shot. . .looked like automatic weapons fire to me. . repeated shooting and I picked out 2, maybe 3 tracer rounds. Do we even know where it was taken (I don't speak the language of the news reporter!).. might it have been Israel rather than Iraq? Possibly a M249? with a 1 in 5 tracer round maybe? I've also seen recently another video (do you think I can find it!) of an Iraqi firing what looks like a 50 cal from the hip, he squeezes off a burst, then ducks back out of the way when something nearly nails him... you can see the impact/ricochet of the incoming round... |
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"Ragnar" wrote in message
... "Dav1936531" wrote in message ... Further, the sniper may have been able to lure the dead guy's compatriots out into the street had he held off firing the follow up kill shot to the head. Just wound the guy on the first shot and wait for his buddies to come out and "rescue" him.......and then drill them all too. Make a pile of them in the street......however, the insurgent fighters may be "on" to that tactic already. Dave I seriously doubt that the bad guys care enough about such things to even bother "rescuing" one of their own. Someone has neglected to tell them the 17 female virgins they receive in heaven have PMS for all eternity. |
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Dave I'm not so sure, it sounded and awful lot like a SAW. Counted nine or ten shots fired, looks like the first couple severed his spine. The rest, chest and head, Great shooting!! T3 For those of you who are wondering what SAW is (I was), it's Squad Automatic Weapon. http://www.ndu.edu/nwc/nwcCLIPART/US...W/army-saw.htm |
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