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Aaron Coolidge wrote:
CG envelope a moderate amount, so that the situation of 2 * 200 lb front seat passengers + fuel + no rear seat pax or baggage is within the CG envelope. It is purely a paper change, you get a new CG envelope sheet. It came with my Cherokee 180, and I believe that it applies to straight-wing Arrows too (ie, PA-28-180 and PA-28-200). Aaron: Do you happen to know the number of the SB from Piper? And I keep an 8 gallon (with only 7 gallons in it) water tank in the baggage area. Works perfectly! |
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Blanche wrote:
: Aaron: : Do you happen to know the number of the SB from Piper? It is referenced in the TCDS (2A13) for the airplane. The relevant info is in Note 15, with the graphs of the CG envelope on page 2: The Model PA-28-180, S/N 28-671 through 28-5859, may be operated to the expanded C.G. envelope: (a) For S/N 28-671 through 28-3072 by the installation of P/N 65280-00 tube - Landing Gear Strut Piston in accordance with Piper Service Letter 567 and in accordance with FAA approved Airplane Flight Manual Supplement No. 2, dated September 14, 1970, for Model PA-28-180 (Piper Report VB-261). (b) For S/N 28-3073 through 28-5859 in accordance with FAA approved Airplane Flight Manual Supplement No. 2, dated September 14, 1970, for Model PA-28-180 (Piper Report VB-261). -- Aaron Coolidge (N9376J) |
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On 25-Feb-2004, Aaron Coolidge wrote: Not to pick nits, but this stretch happened in 1973 for the Cherokee 180 (which became the "Cherokee Challenger") and 1974 for the Arrow. In 1974 the "Challenger" was named "Archer". 1975 gave the Archer the "Warrior" wing, and changed the name to "Archer 2". This is from Bill Clarke's "Piper Indians" book. You are absolutely correct, of course. Guess I had a "senior moment" while typing. -Elliott Drucker |
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Can anybody tell me what Piper Report VB-274 says about expanding the CG envelope for a '67 PA-28-235 without sending me to New Piper for a copy? (Please) Don |
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Frode ..
You're probably right with your figures. Run some sample W&B scenarios and print them out and keep them with you. That saves recalculating it all the time. "Frode Berg" wrote in message ... Hi! I am part owner of an Arrow 180 hp. We haven't had a weight and balance done in a while, and I was wondering one thing. It seems on the old numbers that me and my wife cannot ride in the front seat together when fully fueled.... I weigh in at around 100 kg (approx 220 lbs) and wife is around 70 kg (around 150 lbs) Is this normal for this plane, or am I doing something wierd with the figures? I would think that two adults should be ok in this plane with full tanks? Its an arrow for goodness.....hehe....no? Any input appreciated. I will be doing my nigh rating next week, and would be nice to know if my instructor and I will be legal flying around in the dark with full tanks.... Frode Berg Norway |
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