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markjen wrote:
Before you get very far with this, see if you can find a model in your price range for a test flight, or at least a ride. Good suggestion. Mooneys are great planes on paper, but they have a lot of compromises to achieve their speed and efficiency: a relatively cramped cabin with very low seat height, poor outward visibility with an obtrusive center strut in the panel (particularly on the early models), stiff controls, and skitterish ground manners on their biscuit gear. To a lot of pilots, these things are part of the Mooney "sports car" experience and no big deal - for me, they make Mooney's unacceptably uncomfortable and unsatisfying to fly. A lot has to do with your size/stature. Big guys tend to like Bonanzas and little guys like Mooneys. I agree about the ground handling. I disagree about the comfort and visibility. My back never hurts after a long flight in the Mooney the way it did in the Piper. The seating position is low to the floor, like a sports car, with your legs stretched out in front of you. I like it, but it's probably a good idea to give it a try to see how you like it, as markjen suggested. It's not like sitting upright on your living room couch with bad padding, like a Cessna. I don't find the visibility limited at all. I think this myth arises from the relatively short viertical dimension of the windscreen, which gives it a 'tank-slit' appearance from the outside. Once you're inside, the seating position is quite close to the windscreen, so you have quite a wide angle of view. Sitting so close to the windscreen adds to the feeling that the cabin is cramped, for some people. Best idea is to give it a try and see how you like it. I will add on the minus side that cabin ingress and egress can be a challenge if you have passengers with compromised flexibility or strength. Because of the low seating position, it's a long way up going through the door to a standing position on the wing. I agree the Mooney is different. You gain some advantages (economy, speed) but you lose out a little too. It's a good compromise for the way I like to use an airplane. Every airplane is a compromise. The speed is addictive. You'll never want to go back to PA28/C172 speeds. A 2nd thing to check into early-on is whether you have a good Mooney shop in your area. To a shop which knows Mooneys, their maintenance/repair is no big deal and you can get great service - these are well-built airplanes. But shops that don't regularly work on Mooneys tend to hate working on them because things are hard to get to. If you pass these two tests, then go for one. I'm guessing that you're perhaps looking into a $100K airplane, so I'd be looking at one of the early 201s which were good airplanes and well worth the premium over the earlier Rangers and other 180-hp models. I really like the Ovations, but I'm guessing they're in the $150K+ range. - Mark |
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I know exactly what you mean. I feel cramped in a 182. I find that I
started squirming to get comfortable, though I did find plenty of room to squirm. Guess I will stick with low wings PS, as someone who has driven a tank, I would have to say the Mooney is much roomier and has less sharp things to bang yourself on. Also, the Mooney has better visibility than either the M60 or the M1, except to the rear. "markjen" wrote in message news:Byb4c.11371$zS4.72266@attbi_s51... Its the high windscreen and window arrangement that gives the Bo driver an impresssion of more size. Impression or not, I feel terribly cramped in a Mooney and feel like I can relax and move around in a Bonanza. Peering over the glareshield in a Mooney makes me feel like I'm in a tank. But you're absolutely right - it is subjective. - Mark |
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I am 6' 4" and weigh 250. The only way I am cramped is with the shoulder
room and I have linebacker shoulders. This is the only plane where I have to scoot the seat up in order to reach the pedals. My kids love the leg room in the back. The stiffer controls are a plus in my book. I will always prefer the control tubes versus cables. I came from a PA28-181. This is much nicer than the Archers. The only time I fly an Archer when I can't get the Mooney. "markjen" wrote in message news:Co74c.11521$mM.85328@attbi_s02... Before you get very far with this, see if you can find a model in your price range for a test flight, or at least a ride. Mooneys are great planes on paper, but they have a lot of compromises to achieve their speed and efficiency: a relatively cramped cabin with very low seat height, poor outward visibility with an obtrusive center strut in the panel (particularly on the early models), stiff controls, and skitterish ground manners on their biscuit gear. To a lot of pilots, these things are part of the Mooney "sports car" experience and no big deal - for me, they make Mooney's unacceptably uncomfortable and unsatisfying to fly. A lot has to do with your size/stature. Big guys tend to like Bonanzas and little guys like Mooneys. A 2nd thing to check into early-on is whether you have a good Mooney shop in your area. To a shop which knows Mooneys, their maintenance/repair is no big deal and you can get great service - these are well-built airplanes. But shops that don't regularly work on Mooneys tend to hate working on them because things are hard to get to. If you pass these two tests, then go for one. I'm guessing that you're perhaps looking into a $100K airplane, so I'd be looking at one of the early 201s which were good airplanes and well worth the premium over the earlier Rangers and other 180-hp models. I really like the Ovations, but I'm guessing they're in the $150K+ range. - Mark |
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:18:46 GMT, "Dude" wrote:
PS, as someone who has driven a tank, I would have to say the Mooney is much roomier and has less sharp things to bang yourself on. Also, the Mooney has better visibility than either the M60 or the M1, except to the rear. And, in general, there are fewer people shooting at you :-) Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA) |
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