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  #51  
Old September 21st 05, 11:27 PM
Robert M. Gary
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I paid $4.50/gal at ABQ last July (before prices went up).

-Robert

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Old September 21st 05, 11:34 PM
Robert M. Gary
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And they positioning themselves for fuel savings/availability, or just
playing the markets with extra cash they have laying around?


They are hedging. They spent a few dollars to buy assets that pay off
if prices go up. Therefore, if prices drop, they will be happy at the
pump. If prices go up they will be happy receiving money from the hedge
product (usually crude futures). If you look at the cost of fuel for an
airliner on a graph, hedging dampens the extremes. In the stock market
analysts look at the variability of a company's returns. Having less
variability is translated into less risk. At less risk, advisors are
willing to spend more for the security (Southwest stock in this case).

-Robert

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Old September 21st 05, 11:35 PM
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Mathew,
If you honestly believe that the trading price of oil futures is not
based on speculation of future events, may I suggest you look to your
local high school for a begining class in economics.

-Robert

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Old September 22nd 05, 04:21 AM
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ups.com...
Mathew,
If you honestly believe that the trading price of oil futures is not
based on speculation of future events, may I suggest you look to your
local high school for a begining class in economics.


Robert,

I suggest you look up the difference between "speculation" and such tools as
"forecasts" and "trend analysis". The market turns on forecasts of current
and long term events based on historical data and develops trend analyses;
some play the speculation games based on HUNCHES, but they are a distinctly
small minority that count on being right maybe one time in five.

Also, I suggest you re-examine where economic forecasting, modeling, and
market speculation comes in the economic education literature hierarchy.

May I suggest you shut your piehole before you come off as a ill-educated
and pompous high school student who missed both language AND who just sat in
business/accounting classes and came off with a grade in typical public
school fashion.
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Matt

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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO


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Old September 22nd 05, 03:05 PM
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Matt Barrow wrote:

May I suggest you shut your piehole before you come off as a ill-educated
and pompous high school student who missed both language AND who just sat in
business/accounting classes and came off with a grade in typical public
school fashion.


Hey Matt, you realize that everything you write is archived forever and
searchable, right? So that, for example, someone interested in doing business
with your company can find everything you've ever written in usenet?

But then, maybe that's really the persona you want to project. Just wondering.
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Old September 22nd 05, 05:39 PM
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"Dave Butler" wrote in message
news:1127398321.40649@sj-nntpcache-3...
Matt Barrow wrote:

May I suggest you shut your piehole before you come off as a

ill-educated
and pompous high school student who missed both language AND who just

sat in
business/accounting classes and came off with a grade in typical public
school fashion.


Hey Matt, you realize that everything you write is archived forever and
searchable, right? So that, for example, someone interested in doing

business
with your company can find everything you've ever written in usenet?


Well, I'll leave the "massively paranoid" department to you.

But then, maybe that's really the persona you want to project. Just

wondering.

See previous line.

You might suggest Mr. "Business Expert" Grey (Accounting/MBA, wasn't it?)
learn what the hell he's talking about, such as the difference between
"speculation" and "analysis" or which Econ classes contain what material....

Or did you "conveniently" miss that part?

Oh, and I didn't build up my company by dealing with fakes who don't
understand basic terminology.

So, care to come up with another juvenile "Hollyweird" scenario?

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Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO



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Old September 22nd 05, 05:53 PM
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Matt Barrow wrote:

"Dave Butler" wrote in message
news:1127398321.40649@sj-nntpcache-3...

Matt Barrow wrote:


May I suggest you shut your piehole before you come off as a


ill-educated

and pompous high school student who missed both language AND who just


sat in

business/accounting classes and came off with a grade in typical public
school fashion.


Hey Matt, you realize that everything you write is archived forever and
searchable, right? So that, for example, someone interested in doing


business

with your company can find everything you've ever written in usenet?



Well, I'll leave the "massively paranoid" department to you.


But then, maybe that's really the persona you want to project. Just


wondering.

See previous line.

You might suggest Mr. "Business Expert" Grey (Accounting/MBA, wasn't it?)
learn what the hell he's talking about, such as the difference between
"speculation" and "analysis" or which Econ classes contain what material....

Or did you "conveniently" miss that part?

Oh, and I didn't build up my company by dealing with fakes who don't
understand basic terminology.

So, care to come up with another juvenile "Hollyweird" scenario?


Well Dave, I believe your question is pretty well answered. That is the
persona he wants to project.

--
"You can support the troops but not the president"
--Representative Tom Delay (R-TX), during the Kosovo war.

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Old September 23rd 05, 03:51 AM
Matt Barrow
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"xyzzy" wrote in message
...
Matt Barrow wrote:

So, care to come up with another juvenile "Hollyweird" scenario?


Well Dave, I believe your question is pretty well answered. That is the
persona he wants to project.


Grow up and come back when you're both out of high school.



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Old September 28th 05, 10:16 PM
Robert M. Gary
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May I suggest you shut your piehole before you come off as a ill-educated
and pompous high school student who missed both language AND who just sat in
business/accounting classes and came off with a grade in typical public
school fashion


Matt,
Where did you receive your MBA? I received my MBA from California State
University of Sacramento. My concentration was financial markets.
Please share your academic credentials.

-Robert

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Old September 29th 05, 03:17 PM
Jonathan Goodish
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In article .com,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:
Where did you receive your MBA? I received my MBA from California State
University of Sacramento. My concentration was financial markets.
Please share your academic credentials.



Not to defend anyone, because I haven't followed this thread, but I have
noticed that you like to throw your academic credentials around.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of stone-dumb MBAs running around out
there, so I'm not sure that your hard-earned degree automatically gives
your position credibility.



JKG
 




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