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samll plane noise
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 01:41:16 GMT, Judah wrote:
"daffy" wrote in news:1155241719.548641.249810 : The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise. I can't go outside without hearing the droneing sound. From afar, it is like some sort of low frequency noise, as the plane gets closer, it is very irritating. The FAA should regulate the noise levels of these planes before they become a real nusance, and private aircraft will be completly banned. Are you sure it's plane noise and not boat noise? I believe even small speedboats make more noise than small planes. If it bothers you that much, there are many places one can move to where flying is not permitted. Unfortunately, most of them have other freedom- inhibiting rules that may be somewhat more annoying than a little noise. I agree, I sold my 4500 sq.ft. home on the lake and moved into a condo near LAX. Best Daveb |
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"Skylune" wrote in
lkaboutaviation.com: Don't do that. The pilots all know there is no enforcement, and they will retaliate by buzzing your house since you have the audacity to complain about noise. Here is the mentality you are fighting: http://www.stopthenoise.org/Pilot%20Talk.htm You need to go to the press, organize other victims, and go to the politicians en masse. It is extremely hard to fight the FAA/AOPA cabal, but it is possible if you are persistent and do your research. Victims? Fight? What are you fighting for? What are you a victim of? America is a country that is founded on principles of freedom and democracy. Pilots are free to fly in this country once they have demonstrated that they can do so safely. In a similar manner, drivers are free to drive in this country once they have demonstrated they can do so safely. I'm sorry that your house is in a noisy spot. I assure you that pilots do their best to pick practice areas that are in remote locations so as to disturb the fewest people possible. People may hear airplane noise if they bought houses in those areas. If it disturbs them, that is certainly unfortunate. The solution of creating no fly zones over your house because you are annoyed by the noise is ludicrous. The US Government was not established to protect a very small set of citizens from their own bad choices, poor due diligence, or just plain bad luck. Perhaps you should consider staying inside and turning the TV on to eliminate the noise. Or if that is not acceptable, I can offer a good source of inexpensive earplugs. Of course, neither I nor the US Government, would ever attempt to restrict you from moving somewhere else that is not in the practice area of an airport. Why would you think that the government would attempt to restrict me from flying in your neighborhood if I am doing so safely? Do you believe that you have more rights than I do to the air above your head? I'm afraid you don't own the air that circulates above or around your person or property. Even if you breathe that air, it's just on loan, as it will be expelled out of you shortly afterward, ultimately to be shared by someone else. If it disturbs you that much, I can recommend several places where you can move to and be guaranteed not to hear small airplanes. There are countries that restrict air travel by any other than military personnel. As such, the likelihood of encountering airplane noise will be limited. Unfortunately, these countries have other rules in place that restrict the freedoms of their population and you may be affected by them. Especially if you are of American descent. And I cannot guarantee your safety there either, as many of these countries are in constant states of war and rebellion, or intense poverty and corruption. And while it may not even be quiet, you certainly won't have to worry about airplane noise... |
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 02:58:42 GMT, Judah wrote:
I'm sorry that your house is in a noisy spot. I assure you that pilots do their best to pick practice areas that are in remote locations so as to disturb the fewest people possible. Maybe you do, but I'm more interested in it having plenty of alternate landing spots (i.e. large fields)... Of course this usually also results in disturbing the fewest people possible, but that is rather low on my priority list... |
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:24:25 -0700, NW_Pilot wrote:
I like the sound of airplanes!!! We're on a common departure route from KTEB (heading towards the SBJ VOR, I believe). Because of traffic to/from KEWR, the small jets out of KTEB are often held to about 2000' until around my town. Some people complain. Others enjoy the occasional push out of the airport. Most recognize that it's the price to be paid for (1) proximity to multiple convenient airports and (2) civilization. My 1-year-old, upon hearing any plane, looks for it in the sky and points it out. My 4-year-old is fascinated by the weird concept that these airplanes' engines have their propellers on the inside. The residents close in to KTEB do complain somewhat. But that airport has been there longer than they - or their parents, in many cases - have been alive. In fact, those towns postdate the airport. Personally, were I in charge of the airport I'd offer a "what if" month. For one month, no employees from those towns would be paid. No local shopping would occur. No local restaurants would be used. No local goods or services whatsoever. - Andrew |
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samll plane noise
Bob Noel wrote:
not in reply to steve... "Skylune" wrote in message news:fcf4f614b39660240673927ae9c5bcf8@localhost. talkaboutaviation.com... You can move far away from an airfield, and some anonymous bureacrat can decide to create an "acro-box" right over your home. This is what happened to the poor folks in Groton, Ma, which is not close to an airfield. yo, looney bird. Groton MA is indeed close to an airport. And it was a lot closer to one before Moore AAF closed. I believe Groton even had its own airport (a grass field) at one point in the past. |
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