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Old July 15th 18, 03:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 12:45:06 PM UTC-7, Jock Proudfoot wrote:
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/new-
mexico/articles/2018-07-11/albuquerque-man-dies-in-glider-crash-
near-moriarty-airport


I'm shocked! I first met Renny around 1998 when I bought his Standard Cirrus. He was a salesman working for Shell oil I think. Definitely a salesman but definitely a gentleman. Very enthusiastic about soaring. I bought a DG-600 that he helped a widow sell also in about 2005. You guys in Moriarty know him the best and I'm sure all will miss him and remember him till you are all gone too.

RIP Renny thoughts and prayers to your family.
Russ
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Old July 15th 18, 03:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 12:22:03 PM UTC+2, wrote:

Last time I saw this happen was in Mass., where a new pilot from the UK had never flown an aircraft with flaps and got them wrong on final.


I meant to say "where a highy experienced pilot from the UK with a new glider had never flown an aircraft with flaps..."
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Old July 15th 18, 04:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The LAK-17 is a flapped ship, so I doubt flaps had anything to do with
it.Â* Let's not blame the pilot prematurely.

On 7/15/2018 8:25 AM, wrote:
On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 12:22:03 PM UTC+2, wrote:
Last time I saw this happen was in Mass., where a new pilot from the UK had never flown an aircraft with flaps and got them wrong on final.

I meant to say "where a highy experienced pilot from the UK with a new glider had never flown an aircraft with flaps..."


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Old July 15th 18, 05:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 5:37:11 PM UTC+2, Dan Marotta wrote:
The LAK-17 is a flapped ship, so I doubt flaps had anything to do with
it.Â* Let's not blame the pilot prematurely.


Better yet, let's not put words in my mouth. You said that, not me. What I said is crystal clear: "Not saying this is the cause for this accident..."
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Old July 15th 18, 10:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Anybody check the tail weight? Remember the guy that told the factory to put in 4 pounds of tail weight and they put in 4 kilograms! I have had good relations with the Federollies over the years, but found it necessary to lead them in the right direction, a time or two. We had an accident where the spoilers stuck wide open and the ship crashed on final. Feds missed the cause completely and I filed the defect report that generated an AD.
Sad news,
JJ
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Old July 16th 18, 01:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 3:04:02 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Anybody check the tail weight? Remember the guy that told the factory to put in 4 pounds of tail weight and they put in 4 kilograms! I have had good relations with the Federollies over the years, but found it necessary to lead them in the right direction, a time or two. We had an accident where the spoilers stuck wide open and the ship crashed on final. Feds missed the cause completely and I filed the defect report that generated an AD.
Sad news,
JJ


Yes.

According to Renny, when I spoke to him two weeks or so before the accident, there had been a W&B done several flights prior and the sailplane was flying with a reasonable CG position - don't remember the exact number but mid range-ish.

Mike
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Old July 16th 18, 03:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Is there any information on the weather conditions?

SeeYou Mobile, if present, can record True Airspeed and Groundspeed in one second intervals, depending on the instrumentation.

Sudden changes in TAS - GS demonstrate windshear.

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Old July 16th 18, 05:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 8:15:25 PM UTC-6, George Haeh wrote:
Is there any information on the weather conditions?

SeeYou Mobile, if present, can record True Airspeed and Groundspeed in one second intervals, depending on the instrumentation.

Sudden changes in TAS - GS demonstrate windshear.


According to a friend on the ground that day, conditions at the airport did not seem severe at any time during Renny's flight. Pilots reported good soaring conditions via OLC.

I was told there is recorded tracking info.

Mike
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Old July 17th 18, 01:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Again very sad news......

My condolences to all

AE
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Old July 19th 18, 06:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Hello. For any of you who were friends of Renny's, I'm gathering memories and photos for the family and would like to invite you to participate. Please send a message to me with the word "BoomBox" in the subject line and I'll invite you.

I'm guessing most of you are not local, but for anyone local who would like service information here it is:

Services have been scheduled for Monday, July 23rd as follows:

10:00 am
Mass
John XXIII Catholic Church
4831 Tramway Ridge Drive NE
Albuquerque, NM 87111
(Near Tramway and Montgomery)

11:00 am to 1:00 pm
Reception
French Funerals & Cremations
7121 Wyoming Blvd NE
Albuquerque, NM 87109
(Near Wyoming and San Antonio)

Internment will take place at Santa Fe National Cemetery that afternoon.

Please feel free to share this information with Renny's flying family.
 




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