First Solo and Total Hours Flown

In article ,
"Peter Duniho" wrote:

As you correctly point out, the bulk of being a pilot has to do with
judgment and factual knowledge, rather than motor skills (especially with
current aircraft design...this wasn't always true, IMHO). And frankly, not
everyone is capable of exercising the judgment, nor of learning the factual
knowledge, required to be a pilot.

A coworker was at something like 30 hours before she broke off her training.
She just couldn't get the hang of landing the airplane. She still wants to fly,
and will likely try again sometime in the future. Though I'm not a CFI, I still
want to say that I don't think her problem is judgement or motor skills (unless
somehow she is different in the airplane than on the ground). When she starts
her training again and gets to solo will be a treat.

--
Bob Noel
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lawyers will hate

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
A coworker was at something like 30 hours before she broke off her
training.
She just couldn't get the hang of landing the airplane. She still wants
to fly,
and will likely try again sometime in the future. Though I'm not a CFI, I
still
want to say that I don't think her problem is judgement or motor skills
(unless
somehow she is different in the airplane than on the ground). When she
starts
her training again and gets to solo will be a treat.

Well, since landing an airplane tests only motor skills and not judgment
(that is, assuming the instructor aboard is handling the judgment side,
ensuring that a safe landing is *possible*), I don't see what her failure to
land the plane says about judgment.

As far as what it says about motor skills goes, I agree that just because
she didn't "get it" in 30 hours doesn't necessarily mean she won't after
more training. Assuming she can drive a car, it's likely that with the
right instructor and situation, she can learn to land in far less time than
30 hours.

And just because this is Usenet, I should amend my previous post to clarify:
yes, there are some people who are physically incapable of the motor skills
to land an airplane (due to a physical handicap, for example). But the
average human being, especially one that has already successfully been
taught to drive a car, should have no trouble handling an airplane given
proper and sufficient training. Motor skills just shouldn't normally be an
impediment to being a pilot.

Pete

"Greengears" wrote in news:1164902589.028045.136700@
80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com:

Every pilot out there will never forget their first Solo. But there has
always been this nagging questions as to should there be a minimum
amount of hours flown before a pilot can be allowed to Solo. I have
seen pilots solo in as little as 9 hours and as high as 75 hours.
I know most of you will say that it should vary from pilot to pilot.
But should there be a minimum amount of hours flown?

Yes. 0.

"Greengears" wrote in news:1164902589.028045.136700@
80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com:

Every pilot out there will never forget their first Solo. But there has
always been this nagging questions as to should there be a minimum
amount of hours flown before a pilot can be allowed to Solo. I have
seen pilots solo in as little as 9 hours and as high as 75 hours.
I know most of you will say that it should vary from pilot to pilot.
But should there be a minimum amount of hours flown?

Perhaps there should be a minimum number of landings rather than a minimum
number of hours....

Every pilot out there will never forget their first Solo. But there has
always been this nagging questions as to should there be a minimum
amount of hours flown before a pilot can be allowed to Solo. I have
seen pilots solo in as little as 9 hours and as high as 75 hours.
I know most of you will say that it should vary from pilot to pilot.
But should there be a minimum amount of hours flown?Perhaps there should be a minimum number of landings rather than a minimum
number of hours....

So... how many landinges per 0 hours?

An instructor that sends out a student with 3 hours or less

Time? Or logged time?

Jose
--
"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

This is exactly the type of comments that makes me sad to hear from
pilots - 'not everyone is cut out to be a pilot'. This attempts to make
the point that pilots are some kind of superior being.

I don't think so. Some people are good at some things and not so good
at others. Others are good at other things, and not so good at some
things. Neither is "superior", but for all things, some people will be
better at it, and some will be not so good. Some will be terrible.

Flying is just one of those things.

Albert Einstein didn't speak until he was four years old and wasn't
fluent until at least age eight. I suppose you would claim that he was
not cut out to be an intelligent person.

No, just not cut out to be a politician.

Jose
--
"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Andrew Sarangan wrote:

I would love to see the 3-hour guy's logbook for all the 15 items
required by the FAR for solo. In fact, I would love to see the 5-hour
guy's logbook too.

I soloed September 4th 1966 in MS880b ZK CKL after 4hours 50 minutes
dual instruction at NZ Aerosales Paraparaumu...
And I have 15 exercises (including spinning) ticked and signed off by
the instructor before I soloed
The 3 hour solo was a WW2 pilot who missed being an ace because he was
chasing doodlebugs.

All you need to fly an airplane is motivation, perseverence, basic
intelligence, money and spare time. We are not talking about becoming a
Chuck Yeager or Niel Armstrong. Anyone with basic intelligence and
basic motor skills can be turned into a basic pilot.



Ron Lee wrote:
"Andrew Sarangan" wrote:

This is exactly the type of comments that makes me sad to hear from
pilots - 'not everyone is cut out to be a pilot'. This attempts to make
the point that pilots are some kind of superior being.

Actually it is a correct statement. I am not cut out to be a doctor,
basketball player, jockey, lawyer, etc. Such is life. It does not
mean that people who are those professions are superior than me.

Ron Lee

"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
ups.com...
All you need to fly an airplane is motivation, perseverence, basic
intelligence, money and spare time. We are not talking about becoming a
Chuck Yeager or Niel Armstrong. Anyone with basic intelligence and
basic motor skills can be turned into a basic pilot.

Anyone with basic intelligence and basic motor skills can be turned into
someone who can control an airplane. That does not mean that they can be
turned into a pilot, even a basic one.

Even the lowest levels of FAA certification are beyond the reach of some
people who may well have basic intelligence and basic motor skills.