General Aviation Dead?

On Oct 13, 7:55*am, Dan wrote:
On 10/13/2011 9:48 AM, tutall wrote:





On Oct 13, 7:17 am, *wrote:
On 10/13/2011 6:14 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:

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On Oct 12, 1:48 pm, * *wrote:
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Did you know the major flew his first airplane when he was a minor?
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Coal or iron ore?
Guy

Brass

* * In spherical form.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Large ones that clang?

* *And have to be carried in a wheel barrow.


Bet they are mostly found in Nantucket.

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:40:32 -0400, Jim Wilkins wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:55:24 -0500, Dan wrote:

On 10/13/2011 9:48 AM, tutall wrote:
On Oct 13, 7:17 am, wrote:
On 10/13/2011 6:14 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:

wrote in message
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On Oct 12, 1:48 pm, wrote:
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Did you know the major flew his first airplane when he was a minor?
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Coal or iron ore?
Guy

Brass

In spherical form.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Large ones that clang?

And have to be carried in a wheel barrow.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Brass. I have brass balls.

And have to be carried in a wheel barrow. I got it.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:48:36 -0700 (PDT), tutall wrote:

On Oct 13, 7:55*am, Dan wrote:
On 10/13/2011 9:48 AM, tutall wrote:





On Oct 13, 7:17 am, *wrote:
On 10/13/2011 6:14 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:

* *wrote in message
...
On Oct 12, 1:48 pm, * *wrote:
...
Did you know the major flew his first airplane when he was a minor?
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Coal or iron ore?
Guy

Brass

* * In spherical form.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Large ones that clang?

* *And have to be carried in a wheel barrow.


Bet they are mostly found in Nantucket.

In a bucket.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:04:33 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:48:36 -0700 (PDT), tutall wrote:

On Oct 13, 7:55*am, Dan wrote:
On 10/13/2011 9:48 AM, tutall wrote:





On Oct 13, 7:17 am, *wrote:
On 10/13/2011 6:14 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:

* *wrote in message
...
On Oct 12, 1:48 pm, * *wrote:
...
Did you know the major flew his first airplane when he was a minor?
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Coal or iron ore?
Guy

Brass

* * In spherical form.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Large ones that clang?

* *And have to be carried in a wheel barrow.


Bet they are mostly found in Nantucket.

In a bucket.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

****it. Don't feed the troll. I'll keep him full of ****!

On 10/13/2011 12:37 PM, VOR-DME wrote:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:04:33 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:48:36 -0700 (PDT), tutall wrote:

On Oct 13, 7:55 am, wrote:
On 10/13/2011 9:48 AM, tutall wrote:





On Oct 13, 7:17 am, wrote:
On 10/13/2011 6:14 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Oct 12, 1:48 pm, wrote:
...
Did you know the major flew his first airplane when he was a minor?
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Coal or iron ore?
Guy

Brass

In spherical form.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Large ones that clang?

And have to be carried in a wheel barrow.


Bet they are mostly found in Nantucket.

In a bucket.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

****it. Don't feed the troll. I'll keep him full of ****!

Check the return e-mail, someone is playing.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:46:47 -0500, Dan wrote:

On 10/13/2011 12:37 PM, VOR-DME wrote:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:04:33 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:48:36 -0700 (PDT), tutall wrote:

On Oct 13, 7:55 am, wrote:
On 10/13/2011 9:48 AM, tutall wrote:





On Oct 13, 7:17 am, wrote:
On 10/13/2011 6:14 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Oct 12, 1:48 pm, wrote:
...
Did you know the major flew his first airplane when he was a minor?
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Coal or iron ore?
Guy

Brass

In spherical form.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Large ones that clang?

And have to be carried in a wheel barrow.


Bet they are mostly found in Nantucket.

In a bucket.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

****it. Don't feed the troll. I'll keep him full of ****!

Check the return e-mail, someone is playing.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Thanks for the heads up. It's Clueless Cobb playing with your meat.

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:38:44 -0400, Matt Wiser wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:46:47 -0500, Dan wrote:

On 10/13/2011 12:37 PM, VOR-DME wrote:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:04:33 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:48:36 -0700 (PDT), tutall wrote:

On Oct 13, 7:55 am, wrote:
On 10/13/2011 9:48 AM, tutall wrote:





On Oct 13, 7:17 am, wrote:
On 10/13/2011 6:14 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Oct 12, 1:48 pm, wrote:
...
Did you know the major flew his first airplane when he was a minor?
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Coal or iron ore?
Guy

Brass

In spherical form.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Large ones that clang?

And have to be carried in a wheel barrow.


Bet they are mostly found in Nantucket.

In a bucket.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

****it. Don't feed the troll. I'll keep him full of ****!

Check the return e-mail, someone is playing.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Thanks for the heads up. It's Clueless Cobb playing with your meat.

OK, buddy, where do you get off using facts to prove your point?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

On 14/10/2011 5:40 a.m., Jim Wilkins wrote:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:55:24 -0500, Dan wrote:

On 10/13/2011 9:48 AM, tutall wrote:
On Oct 13, 7:17 am, wrote:
On 10/13/2011 6:14 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Oct 12, 1:48 pm, wrote:
...
Did you know the major flew his first airplane when he was a minor?
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Coal or iron ore?
Guy

Brass

In spherical form.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Large ones that clang?

And have to be carried in a wheel barrow.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Brass. I have brass balls.

Have three and you can own a pawn shop

General Aviation is in decline mostly because of cost. A large part of the
former middle class is gone in the United States. Anyone wishing to fly must
either have a great deal of money (e.g., the top 1%) or must be willing to
make gigantic sacrifices to raise the money for flying. Most people don't want
to fly enough to make gigantic sacrifices, and most people don't make much
money, so GA is in decline.

If a prosperous middle class were to reappear, this trend would probably
reverse.

Another problem is the massive regulation of aviation, which raises the price
and creates many other barriers, surmountable and sometimes insurmountable, to
flying. But this is mostly a constant rather than a variable, so it does not
push GA into decline so much as it holds it at an artificially low level.

Some aspects of GA are doing much better than others. The top 1% is still very
interested in flying around on private jets, for example.

And let's not forget how the costs of defending against and paying
large judgments for liability insurance have so increased costs that
manufacturers of affordable planes have been either forced out of
business or are no longer able to produce an affordable, entry level
aircraft for GA.

Goodbye, Piper Cub.