allowing guns in cockpits

On Jan 9, 6:36*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Well, actually, the more immediate concerns are the likelyhood of a
pilot actually stopping a trained soldier with a gun.

Yea, I guess it seems different when you take the argument to the
ridicules extreme. I guess a gun isn't useful unless it has a nuclear
warhead on it and can take out an entire battalion of soldiers. Its a
lot like saying anyone who picks up a pen better be ready to rewrite
the works of Shakespeare because anything less is not useful.

-Robert

On Jan 9, 6:39*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Veeduber wrote :





On Jan 8, 12:11 pm, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:

And perfectly good academic research backs up your belief.

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Personal experience, too.

After Arizona passed its concealed carry law in the early 1990's their
precipitous drop in certain types of crime was matched by a rise in
those statistics here in southern California as the perps sought less
dangerous hunting grounds. *Of course, the bleeding hearts insist that
can't be right... :-)

I'm not a bleeding heart . I have a gun and I would use it if I had to.
but arming every second asshole on the streets is not a way to stem violent
crime.

Again, you try to take an argument to a ridiculous extreme in order to
make a flimsy point. No one said everyone should be armed.

-Robert

On Jan 9, 9:46*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote :

Be able to defend himself.

I taught my wife to use the gun for self defence. Thought better of it,
then and provided her with some good alternatives that will be much more
effective on the day.

So that is your argument for taking away my right to defend myself and
my family in the way I feel is best???? Its a typical liberal
argument, "I don't want an SUV so no one should be allowed to own
one".

-robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in news:9c147a38-17b3-4003-b879-
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On Jan 9, 6:36*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Well, actually, the more immediate concerns are the likelyhood of a
pilot actually stopping a trained soldier with a gun.

Yea, I guess it seems different when you take the argument to the
ridicules extreme.


It isn't a ridiculous extreme. It's the likely scenario in the event of an
organised hijacking.


I guess a gun isn't useful unless it has a nuclear
warhead on it and can take out an entire battalion of soldiers. Its a
lot like saying anyone who picks up a pen better be ready to rewrite
the works of Shakespeare because anything less is not useful.


Nce try, but we who have been asked to carry the guns have looked into
this, ya know.

The one guy I know well who is carrying is primarily doing it because he's
hoping for the oportunity to shoot someone.

Nobody carries a gun on my flight deck.



Bertie

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in
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On Jan 9, 6:39*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Veeduber wrote
innews:4c62a9f8-38bd-4a33-9582-35861a668
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On Jan 8, 12:11 pm, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:

And perfectly good academic research backs up your belief.


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Personal experience, too.

After Arizona passed its concealed carry law in the early 1990's
their precipitous drop in certain types of crime was matched by a
rise in those statistics here in southern California as the perps
sought less dangerous hunting grounds. *Of course, the bleeding
hearts insist that

can't be right... :-)

I'm not a bleeding heart . I have a gun and I would use it if I had
to. but arming every second asshole on the streets is not a way to
stem violen
t
crime.

Again, you try to take an argument to a ridiculous extreme in order to
make a flimsy point. No one said everyone should be armed.


Uh, yes they did.


Bertie

On Jan 9, 10:07*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
kontiki wrote :

Well, I know of one who killed his girlfriend in an argument over her
with another suitor.
She was 21, had a child with the intended victim.
Literally dozens of lives wrecked and one gone forever.

Multiply that by thousands every year.

That's a good argument to ban knives, bats, hammers, etc. Pencils
don't misspell words, people do.
I'm sure the guy said "Gee, I've love to kill my girl friend but I
don't have a gun and knives and bats are just too damn messy. Oh,
well I guess I'll just give her a kiss good night instead" liberal
fantasy off

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in
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On Jan 9, 9:46*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote
innews:13oa1fbo5s0erbd
@news.supernews.com:

Be able to defend himself.

I taught my wife to use the gun for self defence. Thought better of
it, then and provided her with some good alternatives that will be
much more effective on the day.

So that is your argument for taking away my right to defend myself and
my family in the way I feel is best???? Its a typical liberal
argument, "I don't want an SUV so no one should be allowed to own
one".


So, if you wanted a howitzer you should be allowed to have one?

Who said I was a liberal, you fjukwit?

That what you label anyone who disagrees with your idiocy?


BTW, if you read my post properly you might have read I have a gun. I still
have a gun and I like guns. I think they're fun.
The reality is, when they are required, they don't work, and in between
times they kill hundreds.

Bertie

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in
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On Jan 9, 10:07*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
kontiki wrote
innews:HZ7hj.1882$7d1.1049@news01.
roc.ny:

Well, I know of one who killed his girlfriend in an argument over her
with another suitor.
She was 21, had a child with the intended victim.
Literally dozens of lives wrecked and one gone forever.

Multiply that by thousands every year.

That's a good argument to ban knives, bats, hammers, etc. Pencils
don't misspell words, people do.
I'm sure the guy said "Gee, I've love to kill my girl friend but I
don't have a gun and knives and bats are just too damn messy. Oh,
well I guess I'll just give her a kiss good night instead" liberal
fantasy off


It wasn;t a fantasy, fjukkwit.

This was a real person, she;s dead, Her parents lives are destroyed and if
any post was an argument against guns it's your appalling attitude towards
this, one of the most played out scenes in modern america..




Bertie

Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe wrote:


But shoting from an aircraft still isn't the safest thing to do...
--
Geoff

he he..."overzealous composure"

5/3/00 Unknown locale None None
Gunner shot propeller while behaving with "overzealous composure." Plane
landed alright. Super Cub 91Y

Man, them coyotes are rackin' up some kills.

--
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http://www.aviationkb.com/Uwe/Forums...ation/200801/1

On Jan 9, 10:28*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote :

BTW, if you read my post properly you might have read I have a gun. I still
have a gun and I like guns. I think they're fun.
The reality is, when they are required, they don't work, and in between
times they kill hundreds.

I'm not aware of any time in history when a gun has ever killed
anyone.
-Robert