allowing guns in cockpits

"kontiki" wrote in message
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I taught my wife to use the gun for self defence. Thought better of it,
then and provided her with some good alternatives that will be much more
effective on the day.

Not all people have the mental fortitude and personal discipline
to be competent with a firearm and be prepared to use it effectively
to defend themselves or another person. For them, alternatives
are better.

For that segment of society who have obtained a CCW permit, i.e.
have a clean criminal and mental bill of health & have taken
time for required training and discipline, the fact remains that
they overwhelmingly have a spotless record in terms of not
committing crimes and even saving lives and stopping criminals.

I know of one case where a CCW holders permit was revoked for misuse: a
retired police officer (whose permit was issued automatically in accordance
to state CCW law by, virtue of his being a retired police officer) who shot
up a hospital ward in an attempt to kill his ex-wife. It occurred several
years ago (circa 1995) in Mesa, Arizona.

"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in
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"kontiki" wrote in message
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I taught my wife to use the gun for self defence. Thought better of
it, then and provided her with some good alternatives that will be
much more effective on the day.

Not all people have the mental fortitude and personal discipline
to be competent with a firearm and be prepared to use it effectively
to defend themselves or another person. For them, alternatives
are better.

For that segment of society who have obtained a CCW permit, i.e.
have a clean criminal and mental bill of health & have taken
time for required training and discipline, the fact remains that
they overwhelmingly have a spotless record in terms of not
committing crimes and even saving lives and stopping criminals.

I know of one case where a CCW holders permit was revoked for misuse:
a retired police officer (whose permit was issued automatically in
accordance to state CCW law by, virtue of his being a retired police
officer) who shot up a hospital ward in an attempt to kill his
ex-wife. It occurred several years ago (circa 1995) in Mesa, Arizona.


Well, he deserved to lose his permit.

I hope he felt properly chastised.


Bertie


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Matt W. Barrow wrote:

I know of one case where a CCW holders permit was revoked for misuse: a
retired police officer (whose permit was issued automatically in accordance
to state CCW law by, virtue of his being a retired police officer) who shot
up a hospital ward in an attempt to kill his ex-wife. It occurred several
years ago (circa 1995) in Mesa, Arizona.



Well of course there may be one or two sad stories like that.
But mostly... the people who have CCW permits are subjected to
an extremely high degree of background scrutiny... and they
have to pay for the privilege. You won't really find too
many nut-jobs or gang-bangers willing to apply for one.

kontiki wrote in
:

Matt W. Barrow wrote:

I know of one case where a CCW holders permit was revoked for misuse:
a retired police officer (whose permit was issued automatically in
accordance to state CCW law by, virtue of his being a retired police
officer) who shot up a hospital ward in an attempt to kill his
ex-wife. It occurred several years ago (circa 1995) in Mesa, Arizona.



Well of course there may be one or two sad stories like that.
But mostly... the people who have CCW permits are subjected to
an extremely high degree of background scrutiny... and they
have to pay for the privilege. You won't really find too
many nut-jobs or gang-bangers willing to apply for one.


Whatever you need to tell yourself, I guess.

Bertie

"kontiki" wrote in message
...
Matt W. Barrow wrote:

I know of one case where a CCW holders permit was revoked for misuse: a
retired police officer (whose permit was issued automatically in
accordance to state CCW law by, virtue of his being a retired police
officer) who shot up a hospital ward in an attempt to kill his ex-wife.
It occurred several years ago (circa 1995) in Mesa, Arizona.

Well of course there may be one or two sad stories like that.
But mostly... the people who have CCW permits are subjected to
an extremely high degree of background scrutiny... and they
have to pay for the privilege. You won't really find too
many nut-jobs or gang-bangers willing to apply for one.

Note the caveat in my story about the RETIRED POLICE OFFICER.

CCW laws still are aimed at those not inclined towards criminal behavior.

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Well of course there may be one or two sad stories like that.
But mostly... the people who have CCW permits are subjected to
an extremely high degree of background scrutiny... and they
have to pay for the privilege. You won't really find too
many nut-jobs or gang-bangers willing to apply for one.


Whatever you need to tell yourself, I guess.


I don't feel a need to tell myself anything.

kontiki wrote:
Matt W. Barrow wrote:

I know of one case where a CCW holders permit was revoked for misuse:
a retired police officer (whose permit was issued automatically in
accordance to state CCW law by, virtue of his being a retired police
officer) who shot up a hospital ward in an attempt to kill his
ex-wife. It occurred several years ago (circa 1995) in Mesa, Arizona.


Well of course there may be one or two sad stories like that.
But mostly... the people who have CCW permits are subjected to
an extremely high degree of background scrutiny... and they
have to pay for the privilege. You won't really find too
many nut-jobs or gang-bangers willing to apply for one.

The scrutiny and costs are directly proportional
to the population density of your county, at least
in the western US.

kontiki wrote in news:bsahj.1897$7d1.468
@news01.roc.ny:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Well of course there may be one or two sad stories like that.
But mostly... the people who have CCW permits are subjected to
an extremely high degree of background scrutiny... and they
have to pay for the privilege. You won't really find too
many nut-jobs or gang-bangers willing to apply for one.


Whatever you need to tell yourself, I guess.


I don't feel a need to tell myself anything.





I know.

Bertie

On Jan 2, 10:46*pm, "Private" wrote:
allowing guns in cockpits

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27647

Everone should have a fully pimped out gun.

http://justelite.net/wp-content/uplo...07/_fun001.jpg

Wil

On 2008-01-09, William Hung wrote:
On Jan 2, 10:46*pm, "Private" wrote:
allowing guns in cockpits
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27647
Everone should have a fully pimped out gun.
http://justelite.net/wp-content/uplo...07/_fun001.jpg

So should their daughters.

See the first picture at http://arthurshall.com/x_2007_manly_firearms.shtml .

As it happens, I know the author of that piece, and his daughter...and she
really can shoot that thing well.
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