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Kawa.....
Am Mittwoch, 30. Juli 2014 16:02:53 UTC+2 schrieb Sean Fidler:
Kawa has won every single event in which he has entered except for one. He just placed second in the standard class WGC in Finland. |
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Kawa.....
Am Mittwoch, 30. Juli 2014 16:02:53 UTC+2 schrieb Sean Fidler:
Kawa is simply at a different level. I do not think it's even comparable.. Nobody else is even close to his overall accomplishments, his consistency or his raw talent. Kawa will soon be known, if he is not already, as the best glider racing pilot in history. Its not even close. It's obvious. He won Uvalde by 600 points! That's unheard of... He won Uvalde by 400 Points and got half of them on the last day, in a competition with more than 10.000 points overall. |
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Kawa.....
Not quite unheard of - the Jones brothers just won the 20M 2 seater Worlds
by nearly 900 points (and winning 6 out of 7 days), agaist a field with World and European Champions competing. Flying at the same site where their Father represented GB in the 1976 Worlds. Remarkable family. At 09:36 31 July 2014, wrote: Am Mittwoch, 30. Juli 2014 16:02:53 UTC+2 schrieb Sean Fidler: Kawa is simply at a different level. I do not think it's even comparable= .. Nobody else is even close to his overall accomplishments, his consistenc= y or his raw talent. Kawa will soon be known, if he is not already, as the= best glider racing pilot in history. Its not even close. It's obvious. = He won Uvalde by 600 points! That's unheard of... He won Uvalde by 400 Points and got half of them on the last day, in a comp= etition with more than 10.000 points overall. |
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Kawa.....
You are correct! It appears that Sebastian Kawa won the 2012 15 Meter Class World Championship at WGC Uvalde 2012 by ONLY 440 points (not quite 600). I don't understand what you mean by gaining half of those points on the final day. It appears that Kawa gained only 7 points on the last day (13). Not to shabby, regardless.
http://wgc2012uvalde.com/index.php?o...110&I temid=7 15m (flapped) and Standard (un-flapped) are arguably the most competitive classes at each of the 2 bi-annual World Championships right now. I imagine this is why Kawa competes in those classes and not 18 meter, yet. 18 meter is probably very close to matching or even surpassing 15 meter as the most competitive class, IMO. But, Poland is fairly nationalistic, and Poland does not have its own 18m glider yet. In terms of Kawa's fairly uncharacteristic second place finish at the 2014 Standard Class WGC Finland, the weather conditions were very poor in Finland overall except for the final competition day. It was a bit of a crapshoot (from what I heard) and that makes yet another consistent second place finish by Sebastian Kawa even more impressive (for me at least). I am not sure the fine details matter that much. I stand behind my statement that Kawa's: 1) major contest record (numerous World Championships, FAI Grand Prix, Major European events), 2) consistency (second is a poor contest for him, even at this level), 3) raw talent and 4) ability to be competitive in multiple classes and gliders is something the world has never seen before in the sport of soaring. In fact, nobody else is (or has been) remotely close. Kawa is the best competition glider pilot ever, by far and without question.. He has the whole world gunning for him every contest. The only question is how long can he maintain this run! |
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Kawa.....
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:14:05 AM UTC-5, Sean Fidler wrote:
You are correct! It appears that Sebastian Kawa won the 2012 15 Meter Class World Championship at WGC Uvalde 2012 by ONLY 440 points (not quite 600).. I don't understand what you mean by gaining half of those points on the final day. It appears that Kawa gained only 7 points on the last day (13). He beat his team mate, Tomasz Rubaj by 7 points. Second place overall in the contest was Matthias Sturm. Kawa beat him by 188 points on the last day.. So, he got 188 of his 434 point victory margin on the last day. And, I don't think anyone is questioning that Kawa is a superb pilot. Some have pointed out that others have made significant accomplishments, as well. Just not yet over the duration that Kawa has shown. |
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Kawa.....
But, Poland is fairly nationalistic, and Poland does not have its own 18m glider yet.
- Actually both of these statements are incorrect. Aeroklub Polski owns a ASG-29,if not two. And Poland is less nationalistic than pretty much all neighboring EU countries, including Germany. If you think "nationalistic" take a trip to France, but I think it's just a matter of spending tax money on the things that work in the interest of common folk/tax payer, as opposed to financing an overgrown military. |
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Kawa.....
Am Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2014 17:45:17 UTC+2 schrieb Steve Leonard:
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:14:05 AM UTC-5, Sean Fidler wrote: You are correct! It appears that Sebastian Kawa won the 2012 15 Meter Class World Championship at WGC Uvalde 2012 by ONLY 440 points (not quite 600). I don't understand what you mean by gaining half of those points on the final day. It appears that Kawa gained only 7 points on the last day (13). He beat his team mate, Tomasz Rubaj by 7 points. Second place overall in the contest was Matthias Sturm. Kawa beat him by 188 points on the last day. So, he got 188 of his 434 point victory margin on the last day. And, I don't think anyone is questioning that Kawa is a superb pilot. Some have pointed out that others have made significant accomplishments, as well. Just not yet over the duration that Kawa has shown. Thanks, that´s exactly what I meant with my statement. You can be sure that Matthias went into the last day with a "all or nothing" attitude, and obviously it didn´t work out. And 440 Points in a competition with 11.000 points in total are nothing. That´s the other thing. Sure, Kawa is perhaps the best pilot in the world, but Uvalde was definetely not a good example for his "domination". |
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Kawa.....
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 5:57:14 PM UTC+2, wrote:
But, Poland is fairly nationalistic, and Poland does not have its own 18m glider yet. - Actually both of these statements are incorrect. Aeroklub Polski owns a ASG-29,if not two. And Poland is less nationalistic than pretty much all neighboring EU countries, including Germany. If you think "nationalistic" take a trip to France, but I think it's just a matter of spending tax money on the things that work in the interest of common folk/tax payer, as opposed to financing an overgrown military. I think he's referring to 'own' in the sense of 'made locally', ala the Diana 2. 18m is already hotly contested with Wójcik and Staryszak, so why fight with your countrymen when you can win across all classes? |
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Kawa.....
Sean, Kawa was a Dinghy champion before he started flying gliders,
Sound familiar :-) |
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Kawa.....
On 2014-07-31 15:14:05 +0000, Sean Fidler said:
I am not sure the fine details matter that much. I stand behind my statement that Kawa's: 1) major contest record (numerous World Championships, FAI Grand Prix, Major European events), 2) consistency (second is a poor contest for him, even at this level), 3) raw talent and 4) ability to be competitive in multiple classes and gliders is something the world has never seen before in the sport of soaring. In fact, nobody else is (or has been) remotely close. I like that, unlike many other top contest pilots, he is not afraid of the PW5. |
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