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Dashi wrote: Maule is good! Not necessarily. You'd better be good friends with the person in the other seat in your row, 'cause there ain't much room. If you bought the 160hp model, the useful load with full fuel is going to be around 550 lbs. If you bought the 235, it may be less than that (of course, full fuel is more gallons on that model). And you won't get anyone into the plane unless they're in real good shape and pretty flexible (or you have a *big* shoehorn). That big fin makes it a real bear to handle in any crosswind over about 12 knots (want an audience for your landing, just announce you're coming in in a Maule when the wind is over 15 and gusting). As I said in an earlier post, a 180hp Maule is something to consider, but the Cessna 180 is a better plane (if you can afford one). BTW, I own a Maule MX-7-160. George Patterson A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that can be learned no other way. |
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Great point about the cross wind, pushed me back to the 260SE 182 line of
thinking again. I fly out of 49S Babb, MT, when I can find a airplane to fly. Pat Thronson "G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ... Dashi wrote: Maule is good! Not necessarily. You'd better be good friends with the person in the other seat in your row, 'cause there ain't much room. If you bought the 160hp model, the useful load with full fuel is going to be around 550 lbs. If you bought the 235, it may be less than that (of course, full fuel is more gallons on that model). And you won't get anyone into the plane unless they're in real good shape and pretty flexible (or you have a *big* shoehorn). That big fin makes it a real bear to handle in any crosswind over about 12 knots (want an audience for your landing, just announce you're coming in in a Maule when the wind is over 15 and gusting). As I said in an earlier post, a 180hp Maule is something to consider, but the Cessna 180 is a better plane (if you can afford one). BTW, I own a Maule MX-7-160. George Patterson A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that can be learned no other way. |
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"G.R. Patterson III" writes:
That big fin makes it a real bear to handle in any crosswind over about 12 knots (want an audience for your landing, just announce you're coming in in a Maule when the wind is over 15 and gusting). This summer I landed my M6-235 at The Pas, MB with the winds gusting to 29 knots straight across the runway. Not only that, but the runway was half width because they were paving it half at a time, divided the long way. Yup, everyone came out to watch. Fortunately, I didn't give the onlookers too exciting a show but I had the advantage of being on Wipline 3000A's so it wasn't a taildragger anymore. -Dave |
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Which model of the Maule has the small ailerons? This also has an effect on the aircraft's crosswind capability. |
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:
That big [Maule] fin makes it a real bear to handle in any crosswind over about 12 knots Indeed. I vastly prefer the smaller, rounded vertical fin of my M4-210C (been flying it since 1971) to the billboard-sized "whale tail" fins of the M5's and later. When the wind is down the runway, the big vertical fin of the M5's (and later) probably makes it easier to stay straight, which I guess is nice for a beginner tailwheel pilot. But does it ever weathervane in a strong crosswind! fwiw in the M4-210C, I have done takeoffs (a cinch) and landings (not a cinch) with a direct crosswind of 15G40 knots - runway 24 @ CYSH after a strong cold frontal passage, wind out of the north at 330 magnetic. I don't think that would be possible in an M5 or later. P.S. Pop quiz - why did I chose the wind from the right with a 90 degree crosswind? Think about what would happen during an overshoot because of weathervaning, with the application of power. -- ATP http://www.pittspecials.com/images/oz_inv.jpg |
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In article , Jim wrote:
What's your opinion about the best taildragger that has room for at least 2 adults plus kids? Reasons and experiences please. Depending on where you live, a Cessna 170 may turn out to be a good economical 4-seat taildragger. I've carried 4 adults and full fuel in one (admittedly only one of the adults was on the rotund side). The nice thing about the C170 is that the forward visibility on the ground is better than the forward visibility in a PA-28 due to its down-sloping nose. The view over the nose in flight is awesome. -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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In article , Steve Robertson wrote:
You don't need a taildragger to operate off grass - Especially 5000 feet! You need a Bonanza. Great on on grass, great on short fields (not that yours I second that - good strong gear, lots of power, effective flaps. A Bonanza can be landed shorter and taken off shorter than a C172, and copes with rough fields well (tough gear, plenty of prop clearance). But a Bonanza is a lot more expensive to run than a C170 or Stinson 108! -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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Depending on where you live, a Cessna 170 may turn out to be a good
economical 4-seat taildragger. I've carried 4 adults and full fuel in one (admittedly only one of the adults was on the rotund side). The nice thing about the C170 is that the forward visibility on the ground is better than the forward visibility in a PA-28 due to its down-sloping nose. The view over the nose in flight is awesome. I used to own a C170 and it was a fun airplane to fly. I eventually traded up to my C185 and now that my family is larger (wife + 2 kids) I appreciate the C185 more than ever. I've done quite a few trips half way and even all the way across the country with the whole family. I don't think they would have had the patience to do that trip in the C170 not to mention that sometimes we were loaded to the gills. The C170 is not exactly a load hauler and is underpowered for any high altitude operations with four people. So bottom line, if you can scrape enough money together, buy a C180/C185. You will never regret it. If you can't afford it, go with the C170 and you will have fun with that too. ~Paul |
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