Any retired Apollo 800 Flybuddy Lorans?

We still have one of these and it works great in the simple airspace we fly
in. Also good backup for the handheld GPS. The database is very old
however. Does anyone out there have one of these that they have retired?
I'd like to get a more recent database card?
--
Roger Long

We still have one of these and it works great in the simple airspace we fly
in. Also good backup for the handheld GPS. The database is very old however.
Does anyone out there have one of these that they have retired? I'd like to get
a more recent database card?
--
Roger Long


Roger:
I get my data card on the UPSAT Apollo Flybuddy Plus updated once per year.
www.upsat.com for subscription information. The last time I did the update I
found a new category of waypoints, LOC/DME locations to complement the ILS/LOC
approaches I was doing on the SL30 digital nav/com and the GX60 moving map.

Go to the source and get it done.


paul k. sanchez, cfii-mei
on eagles’ wings
2011 south perimeter road, suite g
fort lauderdale, florida 33309-7135
305-389-1742 wireless
954-776-0527 fax
954-965-8329 home/fax

www.upsat.com is now gone and is replaced by a Garmin website. There
is no longer any mention of database updates for the old Apollo Loran
products ("Flybrary" cards). I bought a one-time update for my 800+
loran a little over a year and a half ago and it was only about $80
including shipping plus a brand new memory flash card becuase the old
ones I had were too small capacity and won't hold the newer databases.
I wish I'd bought one more of these one-time update for it now since I
fear Garmin will shut off updates for these very abruptly if they
haven't already done so.

On 30 Aug 2003 13:02:24 GMT, (paul k. sanchez)
wrote:
Roger:
I get my data card on the UPSAT Apollo Flybuddy Plus updated once per year.
www.upsat.com for subscription information. The last time I did the update I
found a new category of waypoints, LOC/DME locations to complement the ILS/LOC
approaches I was doing on the SL30 digital nav/com and the GX60 moving map.

www.upsat.com is now gone and is replaced by a Garmin website. There is no
longer any mention of database updates for the old Apollo Loran products
("Flybrary" cards). I bought a one-time update for my 800+ loran a little over
a year and a half ago and it was only about $80 including shipping plus a brand
new memory flash card becuase the old ones I had were too small capacity and
won't hold the newer databases. I wish I'd bought one more of these one-time
update for it now since I fear Garmin will shut off updates for these very
abruptly if they haven't already done so.


Au contraire Pierre.

http://www.garminat.com/138-0427.shtml

Data Card Identification
P/N: 138-0427 Name: North America
Class: D Version: 1.11

Coverage
North and Latin America (Hawaii not included)


Data Card Contents

Airport data: Airport, Ident, Lat/Lon, facility name, city name, state,
country, field elevation, facility type, runway direction, lengths, surface and
lighting, frequencies, fuel availability
VOR data: Ident, Lat/Lon, facility name, state, country, frequency
NDB data: Ident, Lat/Lon, facility name, state, country, frequency
LOC-DME: Ident, Lat/Lon, country (CONUS only)
Intersections: INTus[E] //is that area between the Longitudes W050 and W095
degrees inside the USA and an area east of Detroit in Canada INTus(W) // is
that area between the Longitudes W085 and W130 degrees inside the USA INT(O)am
// is that area in Canada, Latin America, Alaska and an area around Detroit in
USA. LOC-DME // are on the cards after intersections (They were before the
Intersections)
SUA data: Name, type, altitude boundaries, segmented TCA/ARSA. TRSA data not
provided.
MORA data: Minimum Off-Route Altitude data is provided.
Approaches: Approach data not provided.
Other Contents: NOTICE: The information on intersections is now found in two
lists: INT (K) for those in the Continental US and INT (O) for all other
intersections in the Americas.

Version Compatibility

Apollo NMC 2001 C115 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 5.0
Flybuddy Loran 800 1.0, 1.10, 1.11, 1.12, 1.13, 1.20
Flybuddy GPS 820 1.00, 1.01, 1.20
Apollo NMC 2001 C129 4.10, 5.00, 5.1

Maybe there is a reason clients pay my daily fee for what I know.


paul k. sanchez, cfii-mei
on eagles’ wings
2011 south perimeter road, suite g
fort lauderdale, florida 33309-7135
305-389-1742 wireless
954-776-0527 fax
954-965-8329 home/fax

Cool! Thanks Paul!!!!
I must be blind today... I looked all over the website and totally
missed it. I only saw the GPS unit info.

On 30 Aug 2003 22:31:31 GMT, (paul k. sanchez)
wrote:

www.upsat.com is now gone and is replaced by a Garmin website. There is no
longer any mention of database updates for the old Apollo Loran products
("Flybrary" cards). I bought a one-time update for my 800+ loran a little over
a year and a half ago and it was only about $80 including shipping plus a brand
new memory flash card becuase the old ones I had were too small capacity and
won't hold the newer databases. I wish I'd bought one more of these one-time
update for it now since I fear Garmin will shut off updates for these very
abruptly if they haven't already done so.


Au contraire Pierre.

http://www.garminat.com/138-0427.shtml

Data Card Identification
P/N: 138-0427 Name: North America
Class: D Version: 1.11

Coverage
North and Latin America (Hawaii not included)


Data Card Contents

Airport data: Airport, Ident, Lat/Lon, facility name, city name, state,
country, field elevation, facility type, runway direction, lengths, surface and
lighting, frequencies, fuel availability
VOR data: Ident, Lat/Lon, facility name, state, country, frequency
NDB data: Ident, Lat/Lon, facility name, state, country, frequency
LOC-DME: Ident, Lat/Lon, country (CONUS only)
Intersections: INTus[E] //is that area between the Longitudes W050 and W095
degrees inside the USA and an area east of Detroit in Canada INTus(W) // is
that area between the Longitudes W085 and W130 degrees inside the USA INT(O)am
// is that area in Canada, Latin America, Alaska and an area around Detroit in
USA. LOC-DME // are on the cards after intersections (They were before the
Intersections)
SUA data: Name, type, altitude boundaries, segmented TCA/ARSA. TRSA data not
provided.
MORA data: Minimum Off-Route Altitude data is provided.
Approaches: Approach data not provided.
Other Contents: NOTICE: The information on intersections is now found in two
lists: INT (K) for those in the Continental US and INT (O) for all other
intersections in the Americas.

Version Compatibility

Apollo NMC 2001 C115 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 5.0
Flybuddy Loran 800 1.0, 1.10, 1.11, 1.12, 1.13, 1.20
Flybuddy GPS 820 1.00, 1.01, 1.20
Apollo NMC 2001 C129 4.10, 5.00, 5.1

Maybe there is a reason clients pay my daily fee for what I know.


paul k. sanchez, cfii-mei
on eagles’ wings
2011 south perimeter road, suite g
fort lauderdale, florida 33309-7135
305-389-1742 wireless
954-776-0527 fax
954-965-8329 home/fax

Don't feel bad. I thought I'd been all over that site before my original
post and I didn't find that either.

Thanks also, Paul.
--
Roger Long

This just in from Garmin:

Unfortunately the database card will not work and we can not get the
internal memory for the database upgrades anymore, therefore the Flybuddy
can not be updated.

GARMIN AT, Inc.

Aviation Account Representative

Bill Lehmanowsky

This just in from Garmin:

Unfortunately the database card will not work and we can not get the internal
memory for the database upgrades anymore, therefore the Flybuddy can not be
updated.

GARMIN AT, Inc.

Aviation Account Representative

Bill Lehmanowsky

For the Flybuddy 800+ Loran or just the Flybuddy 800?

Flybuddy 800 never had a data card reader anyway. Its database was internal and
limited to airport/VOR ID, lat/long and that was it.

Flybuddy 800+ Loran uses the same card as the Flybuddy 820 GPS, as the NMC
2001, etc.

Me thinks you might want to verify which Flybuddy you have, the 800+ or just
the 800.

Also consider getting a GX55 moving map gps with a altitude serializer if
indeed you have a Flybuddy 800 only and can not use a data card.

I have seen Flybuddy 800+ on www.ebay.com for $150, but only see them about 1
per month.



paul k. sanchez, cfii-mei
on eagles’ wings
2011 south perimeter road, suite g
fort lauderdale, florida 33309-7135
305-389-1742 wireless
954-776-0527 fax
954-965-8329 home/fax

We still have one of these and it works great in the simple airspace we fly
in. Also good backup for the handheld GPS. The database is very old however.
Does anyone out there have one of these that they have retired? I'd like to get
a more recent database card?
--
Roger Long

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...egory=26436&it
em=2430886485


paul k. sanchez, cfii-mei
on eagles’ wings
2011 south perimeter road, suite g
fort lauderdale, florida 33309-7135
305-389-1742 wireless
954-776-0527 fax
954-965-8329 home/fax