TIS (traffic information service)

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:34:27 -0400, Doug Vetter wrote:

The FAA is continuing to invest in Mode-S radars (the ASR-11 is replacing
the ASR 7, 8, and 9 units that currently support TIS), so an investment in
the airborne component is still a wise move and will be for MANY years.

Aside from TIS, what is the benefit (either to the pilot or ATC) of mode S?

- Andrew

The FAA is continuing to invest in Mode-S radars (the ASR-11 is replacing
the ASR 7, 8, and 9 units that currently support TIS),



11's are not replacing 9's. They are a stripped down 9.



so an investment in
the airborne component is still a wise move and will be for MANY years.


The FAA is installing new radars but they leave out the software that
supports TIS. That's what happened to us. We had a 7 with mode S and
TIS was operastional. We upgraded the radar to an 11 but they do not
install TIS stuff in the radar.

Andrew Gideon wrote:




Aside from TIS, what is the benefit (either to the pilot or ATC) of mode S?


To ATC? Nuthin' I wouldn't know if you had one.

In article ,
Newps wrote:


11's are not replacing 9's. They are a stripped down 9.

I don't recall the ARS-11 being a derivative of the -9.

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Bob Noel
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Bob Noel wrote:

In article ,
Newps wrote:


11's are not replacing 9's. They are a stripped down 9.


I don't recall the ARS-11 being a derivative of the -9.


It's the K Mart version of the 9.

Mode S has several advantages. ATC interrogation pulses can be directed to
a specific aircraft or all Mode S aircraft. Replies to the interrogation
can contain specific information (altitude, aircraft ID and airframe type).
Interrogation to all Mode S aircraft could illicit a reply from my Garmin
GTX 330 that contians my tail # and type and altitude. I don't know if all
of this is currently functional in any or all of the Mode S facilities or
not but this was the original intent.

http://rfdesign.com/military_defense...e_technology/I think that it's a great thought that will give way to ADS-B. TIS is agreat tool also that will probably pass by the wayside. But my 2 or 3 tripsper month into the Dallas Class B are made easier with TIS. FSM where I'mbased had TIS for the first year after I installed the Garmin but theyupgraded the radar (to ASR 11, I believe) and are not going to turn TIS onfor whatever reason.MarkN28409WC5I"Andrew Gideon" wrote in messagenewsan.2006.08.30.23.39.09.697508@gideon. org... On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:34:27 -0400, Doug Vetter wrote: The FAA is continuing to invest in Mode-S radars (the ASR-11 is replacing the ASR 7, 8, and 9 units that currently support TIS), so an investmentin the airborne component is still a wise move and will be for MANY years. Aside from TIS, what is the benefit (either to the pilot or ATC) of modeS? - Andrew

Newps,

To ATC? Nuthin' I wouldn't know if you had one.


Ah, the broad view of the American ;-)

In Europe, Mode S equipment is becoming mandatory solely for ATC
reasons. There is no TIS here. ATC stations with the proper equipment
can do "selective" calls (hence mode S) interrogating only specific
aircraft. This leads to less congestion on the secondary radar
frequency, which, Eurocontrol tells us, is a serious problem with Mode
A/C. They claim to be running out of transponder codes, for example.
More info via google...

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

In article 9rrJg.24072$W01.11777@dukeread08, "Mark Manes"
wrote:

Mode S has several advantages. ATC interrogation pulses can be directed to
a specific aircraft or all Mode S aircraft.

I know the advantages from an ATC POV, but what is the advantage for
the aircraft owner?

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Bob Noel schrieb:

I know the advantages from an ATC POV, but what is the advantage for
the aircraft owner?

To be allowed to fly in controlled airspace at all? In Europe, Mode S
will be mandated, because ATC claims Mode C reaches its limits. This
means in the forseeable futu No Mode S, no fly in controlled airspace.

Stefan

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:52:11 +0200, Stefan
wrote in :

Bob Noel schrieb:

I know the advantages from an ATC POV, but what is the advantage for
the aircraft owner?

To be allowed to fly in controlled airspace at all? In Europe, Mode S
will be mandated, because ATC claims Mode C reaches its limits. This
means in the forseeable futu No Mode S, no fly in controlled airspace.


Would that Mode S requirement be a result of the implement ion of
outsource ATC?