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"Analyst: Obama Would Be A Nightmare For Defense Programs, Firms"
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:05:25 GMT, Ed Rasimus
wrote: You might recall that the oil shortages of 1976 were caused by the Carter administration assertion that we would be out of oil by 2000. And don't forget his 55 MPH national speed limit to save us oil. I think it was the Club of Rome in '68 that made those assertions on "out of oil." Of course it heartily embraced by the Carter and the GA Mafia. The "double nickle" comes from the Nixon Administration. As a practical matter it IS the quickest and and easiest way to increase fleet milage. I pull a big horse trailer and if I slow down from 70 mph to 64 mph I get an almost 20% increase in milage. Carter never understood The Bully Pulpit. He was an honorable man who thought all other men were honorable, too. He was a man of his word and thinks all others are, too. Witness his recent contacts and assertions about Hamas. He also pulled the rug out from under the Shah and failed to do anyting to fill the resulting power vacuum, which resulted in the rise of the Ayatollah Khomeni (sp) and the release of large scale relgious fundamentalism fueled by petrodollars. He's still an honest and honorable man. He still hasn't figured out that very few others are. |
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"Analyst: Obama Would Be A Nightmare For Defense Programs, Firms"
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:40:21 -0500, J a c k
wrote: Peter Skelton wrote: ...recognise your irrational hatred of [Carter] and start looking things up. Sure, there are plenty of rational reasons to dislike Carter, in addition to his being a Democrat. Apparently knows from peanuts, probably make a mediocre carpenter, must have been adequate on nuclear power plants in subs, but wasn't effective with Iran, can't keep his fingers out of the ME pie, and generally looks, at best, like a well-intentioned micro-manager with a Messiah complex. You seem jealous. Peter Skelton |
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"Analyst: Obama Would Be A Nightmare For Defense Programs, Firms"
the government has never been bigger than it is now under the republicans. the way you wingnut fools can go on about big government and government spendings when its you who are pushing the first and benefiting from the later while decrying both is as hinesquaters says hilarious. You forgot to take off your tinfoil hat long enough to insist 9/11 and the security concerns since was a right wing conspiracy... |
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"Analyst: Obama Would Be A Nightmare For Defense Programs, Firms"
On Apr 24, 3:16 pm, eyeball wrote:
the government has never been bigger than it is now under the republicans. the way you wingnut fools can go on about big government and government spendings when its you who are pushing the first and benefiting from the later while decrying both is as hinesquaters says hilarious. You forgot to take off your tinfoil hat long enough to insist 9/11 and the security concerns since was a right wing conspiracy... No, but falling asleep on the watch and using security as a shield against illegal activity might fall into that category. Plus the obvious fascination with torture even before any al Qaeda prisoners were available. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...v=rss_politics |
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"Analyst: Obama Would Be A Nightmare For Defense Programs, Firms"
"Tiger" wrote in message ... Ray O'Hara wrote: "Jack Linthicum" wrote in message ... On Apr 22, 9:48 am, Mike wrote: Goodbye to your favorite weapon programs. The money will go to liberal social welfare programs.... Analyst: Obama Would Be A Nightmare For Defense Programs, Firms Defense Daily If Sen. Barak Obama of Illinois wins the Democratic presidential nomination and then goes on to be elected to the White House, the defense industry better brace for tough times, according to Heidi Wood, Morgan Stanley defense analyst. other industries would benefit and we need to spend money on the U.S. Except Big spending Lib programs Generally mean Big Government rather the private enterprise. Thus more money to the rat holes of midnight Basketball, Head start, & God only knows what program they come up with for this housing crisis. the government has never been bigger than it is now under the republicans. the way you wingnut fools can go on about big government and government spendings when its you who are pushing the first and benefiting from the later while decrying both is as hinesquaters says hilarious. |
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"Analyst: Obama Would Be A Nightmare For Defense Programs, Firms"
"Tiger" wrote in message ... Ed Rasimus wrote: Snip: And, now he believes Hamas is willing to co-exist with Israel... One can only say the Jimmy Carter meant well. ...but executed poorly. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" www.thunderchief.org www.thundertales.blogspot.com I wish he would stick to building houses & Leave the politics to the pros. you mean like bush,cheney and rice????????? some "pros" and your hero reagan was king of the "cut and runners" unlike you present days wingnut fools , the traitor reagan was not blinded by ideaology |
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"Analyst: Obama Would Be A Nightmare For Defense Programs, Firms"
dott.Piergiorgio wrote:
Dan ha scritto: Recall the Reagan tax cuts followed by increases in federal revenue followed by a spending orgy by the Congress?) Someone can explain to me the contradictory justapoxition of "tax cuts" and "increases in federal revenue" ? Best regards from Italy, Dott. Piergiorgio. Well, with any change in the tax codes, people with large stakes of sedentary investments are encouraged to shift them around. basically, a tax cut on investments acts as a moratorium/amnesty: we'll forgive you if you pay us. If rates are 50% and you have $1 million in profits, you might be enticed to sell those assets if you lower the rate to 25% (for an almost instantaneous gain of 25% on those assets). Conversely, if rates are low, and you hold a gain, if the government raises rates, then you are enticed to sell NOW to lock in the lower rate. Such activities create a bunch of secondary profits (markets, brokers, managers who manage the "new" money), so it looks, temporarily, that the economy has grown when all that was done was to pass paper around. The government take from this new activity is very short term, but the tax-cutters point to it as proof that lowering taxes generates additional revenue (failing to mention that the increases are temporary, at best). Please to note that the "spending orgy by the congress" was, in fact, not an increase in spending independent from the tax cuts, but was a part of them. Note also that Reagan never submitted a budget that was ever even close to what was passed in Congress - Congressional budgets were always WAY lower than Reagan wanted. Note also that Reagan gets credit for the tax cuts (passed by Congress) but no blame for the spending, which increases were mostly his bloated military boondoggles, which EVEN the Pentagon stated openly were obscenely more than they needed or wanted... Acolytes of St. Ronnie are an interesting breed... Like other religious fanatics, they ignore the facts to maintain their belief in the canonical infallibility of their cult leader. Dan |
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"Analyst: Obama Would Be A Nightmare For Defense Programs, Firms"
dott.Piergiorgio wrote:
Dan ha scritto: Recall the Reagan tax cuts followed by increases in federal revenue followed by a spending orgy by the Congress?) Someone can explain to me the contradictory justapoxition of "tax cuts" and "increases in federal revenue" ? Best regards from Italy, Dott. Piergiorgio. Reagan spent borrowed money. Andrew Swallow |
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"Analyst: Obama Would Be A Nightmare For Defense Programs, Firms"
Ed Rasimus wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:43:37 -0700, Dan wrote: Ed Rasimus wrote: On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:42:23 -0600, "Glenn Dowdy" wrote: "Ed Rasimus" wrote in message ... Carter cut programs in the military aggressively, froze promotions and military pay/allowances for three of his four years, gave us 22% inflation and an 18% prime interest rate, How did a president 'give' us those rates? Glenn D. Generally the state of the economy is attributed to the economic policies of the incumbent president. (Recall Clinton's claim of leaving a balanced budget and reducing the national debt? Notice the attribution of the current market decline, AKA recession, to Bush tax cuts? Recall the Reagan tax cuts followed by increases in federal revenue followed by a spending orgy by the Congress?) If you take office with 4% inflation and 6% interest rates and in four years without a major cultural shock like a 9/11 or significant war the inflation rate has skyrocketed and interest rates make home owners instantly "wealthy" but home buyers turn into apartment seekers, you take the blame. If your successor cuts taxes and within three years the indicators are significantly reversed, we can assume a cause/effect relationship. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" www.thunderchief.org www.thundertales.blogspot.com Yeah, no oil embargoes or OPEC cartels raising prices at all... No major revolutions in the oil patch... D'oh! Dan You might recall that the oil shortages of 1976 were caused by the Carter administration assertion that we would be out of oil by 2000. And don't forget his 55 MPH national speed limit to save us oil. How could I forget something that exists only in your fervid imagination? If you are going to tell a lie, at least it should make sense and be internally consistent... Dan |
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