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(OT) MS Simmers
"Steve Foley" wrote in message ... "The Old Bloke" wrote in message ... "Steve Foley" wrote in message Just don't write yourself off too quickly. Find out if your physical limitations will really prevent you from flying. *****I can't speak for Dan, but I have had 3 strokes, and would not be able to physically get into an aircraft. While I was training for my private, there was a guy in a wheelchair also training. More than once I helped him in or out of the aircraft. There was also the recent thread of the blind pilot. I would have assumed that neither of these could fly. Don't assume anything. I have applied. I have very limited movement of my arms. And they feel numb to me, so I get no feedback. |
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(OT) MS Simmers
"Dan544" dan544p@hotmail wrote in
: I promise you folks with the little knowledge I have, I will not question you.. Just here for the learning experience. Dan Whoa!! Hold on a minute!! If I say something that doesn't seem to be right, or doesn't make sense, I WANT you (or someone) to question me. If I am full of s%^&* or realize I made a mistake, I will certainly appreciate the fact that you helped me realize it. In fact, I am a strong believer in "out of the mouth of babes" - a fresh viewpoint of something that I take for granted often helps me solve problems or realize my own mistakes. Any pilot can tell you that there is a lot of "lore" that you hear from other pilots and instructors based on how something might have worked on some specific plane in some specific circumstance that has somehow manifested itself into gospel for all planes in all situations, but is really not accurate. I certainly appreciate it when someone can give me factual information and filter out all of the bulls^&*. No one is infallible. Not even the more vocal folks on this group. And if someone says something inaccurate and is proven wrong, even by Manic, they made a mistake and should not try to pretend otherwise. It can be a tough thing for anyone with a big ego to accept the possibility that he was proven wrong, especially by someone he doesn't like. And it's easy to be tough behind an anonymous wall of usenet, but it's not a good demonstration of character. Manic's problem is not that he questions the opinion of every pilot who answers his question. Manic's problem is that he specifically disrespects pilots. He has made it obvious that he is not asking questions because he wants to learn. He asks questions because he wants to bait pilots who try to help him into proving them wrong so that he can boost his own ego. And if he, who is also fallible, makes a mistake, he simply shrugs it off and says that he meant something else or changes the assumption. But if your intent is to gain knowledge about aviation or aviation lore, or even some some other non-aviation things that interest pilots, or you just want to hear some good pilot stories, you've come to the right place, even if you are not a pilot. Enjoy! |
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(OT) MS Simmers
"Dan544" dan544p@hotmail wrote in message ... I do not understand why so many of you real time pilots take such a negative look at simmers. I have always loved aviation. For me, because of physical limitations and age, I will never be able to fly a real airplane alone. I understand that it will never compare to rt experiences, and I also understand that idiots like mxmaniac do not represent us simmers. It is a game, but it does give us some little feel about flying. I have a friend who flies for Continental on 737's from Newark,, He is impressed with simming and says it is a good way to learn the basics, but not a substitute for RT. I enjoy listening and learning from you folks and I know we might post stupid questions at times. Maybe we are jealous of you. I am. So please bear with the ignorance. I think you will find it has little (if not nothing) to do with simmers. Many pilots, including myself, work with one form of sim or the other. The problem is clearly with MX as a person, or his inability to interact with others. Regardless of what few contributions he occasionally makes, MX is a very troubled person. If you search the internet groups, you will find that MX is not here to learn anything as he likes to suggest, but is nothing more than a troll that likes to create confusion. And a lot of people here respect this forum as an asset, and therefore despise his nonsense and confusion. |
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(OT) MS Simmers
Dan544 wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Dan544 writes: Is an idiot anything like a cripple? Sorry.. It is not my style to charactarize anyone like that.. You said "idiots like mxmaniac." I was wondering if you ridicule people in other equally cruel and thoughtless ways as well. You know, people who have, say, physical limitations, or age. What is it that you do not understand the word Sorry? ----------------------------------------o__\ twannnnnggg............ (sound of taut line after setting the hook typical mx trolling style........... |
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(OT) MS Simmers
Dan, we have no problem with simmers. We have a problem with one particular simmer. I have no doubt we would have the same problem with him if he was a 30000 hour ATP. The only difference would be that we would all spend significant time worrying that we would either end up on an aircraft or in airspace he was flying. Dan544 wrote: I do not understand why so many of you real time pilots take such a negative look at simmers. I have always loved aviation. For me, because of physical limitations and age, I will never be able to fly a real airplane alone. I understand that it will never compare to rt experiences, and I also understand that idiots like mxmaniac do not represent us simmers. It is a game, but it does give us some little feel about flying. I have a friend who flies for Continental on 737's from Newark,, He is impressed with simming and says it is a good way to learn the basics, but not a substitute for RT. I enjoy listening and learning from you folks and I know we might post stupid questions at times. Maybe we are jealous of you. I am. So please bear with the ignorance. Dan |
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(OT) MS Simmers
I have no doubt we would have the same problem with him if he was a 30000
hour ATP. The only difference would be that we would all spend significant time worrying that we would either end up on an aircraft or in airspace he was flying. If that were the case, I'll bet there would be a waiting line to call up to the FAA medical division, to report about an unstable pilot, that has problems mixing reality with real life. g -- Jim in NC |
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(OT) MS Simmers
buttman writes:
Doctors don't go off on their patients calling them morons when the patient disagrees with the prognosis, why should pilots? It's just not professional. Doctors, as a group, are somewhat smarter than pilots, and they acquire vastly more knowledge about their profession than most pilots ever acquire about their own. This makes them less insecure. However, I have met insecure doctors who behave like many of the pilots here, expecting others to grovel, and becoming emotional and abusive when the groveling fails to materialize. Honestly, this kind of behavior, seen on this newsgroup, and in real life, has recently made me doubt wanting to continue my aviation career. It's one of those things I've been trying to not think about, because it always gets me down. The pilots who misbehave here are a minority. The same character faults that compel them to behave as they do also make it impossible for them to remain silent. As a result, they create noise that is all out of proportion with their number. Many pilots do not suffer from the insecurities or immaturities I've seen displayed here, and I certainly do not write off all pilots just because the most puerile among them seem to post here. Which is me. And lots of other pilots, too, no doubt. If you fly because you like to fly, why would you can about what anyone else thinks? And why would you need sycophants to be happy? Some of the questions you post are pretty stupid, but I just ignore those. They're just words on a computer screen. It's not worth having an aneurysm over. Some of your questions are very good, and if others would take them seriously could be even more interesting. That seems like a reasonable policy. Now I'll watch the children respond. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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(OT) MS Simmers
Judah writes:
Manic's problem is not that he questions the opinion of every pilot who answers his question. Manic's problem is that he specifically disrespects pilots. I neither respect nor disrespect pilots; why would a person's hobby or occupation have any bearing on whether or not I respect him? It's the person, not the job. However, some people are so insecure that they interpret any absence of fawning respect to be a manifestation of _disrespect_. That's their problem, not mine. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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(OT) MS Simmers
The Old Bloke writes:
I have applied. I have very limited movement of my arms. And they feel numb to me, so I get no feedback. Have you considered flying an aircraft tailored to compensate for your disabilities? As I recall, the FAA will give you a medical in certain circumstances for flight in a specific aircraft if you can demonstrate that you can handle it in that aircraft. You wouldn't be able to fly any other plane, but just being able to fly one would be a great step forward. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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(OT) MS Simmers
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:45:18 -0400, "Dan544" dan544p@hotmail wrote:
I do not understand why so many of you real time pilots take such a negative look at simmers. I can only speak for myself and am fairly sure quite a few others feel the same. First I have nothing against simmers in general, nor do I think most pilots. I have one state-of-the-art machine I use for simming and am now building another one specifically for that purpose. OTOH all the computers here serve multiple purposes. I've flown about 1,400 hours in the last 14 to 15 years with most being in high performance/complex/retract. I'm also instrument rated, but not current. The only person I did it to impress was me. :-)) Well, I have to admit I'd have to add my wife in there as well as she likes to be able to fly places. "I think" the "rub" comes from those who equate simming to real life flying and refuse to accept there are some major and very important differences.. Simming under some circumstances (Even MS FS) can add or supplement portions of real life flying, but falls far short of the real thing. That it "looks" very realistic is not the same as giving the user a realistic experience except in some limited circumstances. On these news groups some of the pilots have become sensitized by a small number from the sim community which is unfortunate and probably why you see such a negative view from a few. I have always loved aviation. For me, because of physical limitations and age, I will never be able to fly a real airplane alone. Many of us on here are likely to find ourselves in that situation as well, eventually. Some much sooner than others and it can happen without warning. I understand that it will never compare to rt experiences, and I also understand that idiots like mxmaniac do not represent us simmers. It is a game, but it does give us some little feel about flying. Likewise I enjoy it. I have a friend who flies for Continental on 737's from Newark,, He is impressed with simming and says it is a good way to learn the basics, but not a substitute for RT. I've found it is a good way to keep up on procedures. I enjoy listening and learning from you folks and I know we might post stupid questions at times. Maybe we are jealous of you. I am. So please bear with the ignorance. You have a good attitude Dan. I hope it survives the news groups:-)) I for one welcome you to the group. Dan |
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