A couple Questions-Ramp Checks and Experimental Operations

Rich S. wrote in message Better check real close, Doug. Here in
Washington State, it's against the
law (oops - ordinance) to change lanes more than once every 800'. No
matter
the reason, if you do so it's a violation. Doesn't matter if the roadway
designers made it impossible to enter from the left and exit to the right.

That's the background I'll be searching for when I get the time. The state's
Driver's Handbook makes no reference to a specific distance. Even if the
statute does mention a certain distance, how did the officer measure it?
From his line of sight, parallax discounts light poles and he couldn't
easily distinguish the painted lines. I'll find out if he had video during
discovery. He wasn't wearing his hat but their handbook now allows that the
hat isn't a required part of the uniform. The handbook changed after they
lost some cases over hatless officers.

D.

In article ,
"Capt. Doug" writes:


RobertR237 wrote in message If you went across three lanes to get to an
exit ramp you should
have received a ticket. It is a stupid move that I have seen cause
accidents
and at least one death. You should have been in the correct lane well
before
the exit or gone on to the next exit.

How quick you are to pass judgement. You weren't even there, were you? Do
you know for a fact that there was any other traffic? Do you know for a fact
that I wasn't in the correct lane well before the exit? Do you know for a
fact how many feet elapsed between each individual lane change? Perhaps you
would do well to take your own advice and cool it off a little before
posting that which you are only guessing at.

D.



Guessing at what you said which was that YOU crossed three lanes to get to the
exit. You made no indication that you did anything else. Sorry if I can't
just blindly give you a lot of support, I have seen what happens when drivers
cross three lanes trying to make an exit they should just bypass. If the cop
gave you a ticket, its a damn safe bet you did so in an unsafe manner. Now
quit whining and pay the ticket.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

On 29 Sep 2003 06:13:01 GMT, osite (RobertR237)
wrote:

How quick you are to pass judgement. You weren't even there, were you? Do
you know for a fact that there was any other traffic? Do you know for a fact
that I wasn't in the correct lane well before the exit? Do you know for a
fact how many feet elapsed between each individual lane change? Perhaps you
would do well to take your own advice and cool it off a little before
posting that which you are only guessing at.

D.

Guessing at what you said which was that YOU crossed three lanes to get to the
exit. You made no indication that you did anything else. Sorry if I can't
just blindly give you a lot of support, I have seen what happens when drivers
cross three lanes trying to make an exit they should just bypass. If the cop
gave you a ticket, its a damn safe bet you did so in an unsafe manner. Now
quit whining and pay the ticket.

Bob Reed
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

How odd.
..
Your advice sounds exactly like Jaun's.....
telling you to shut up about your BD-5 screwing. ;-(


Barnyard Bob --

"Capt. Doug" wrote in message ...
Badwater Bill wrote in message A good example of administrative law is a
speed limit sign. However, the speed limit he sets is "Administrative
Law" not
Statutory Law. It still applies until you spend a hundred grand on
lawyer's fees to challenge it, should you not like it.

Yeah, just the other day I got a ticket from a kid who could barely shave. I
went across 3 lanes to get to the exit ramp. He wrote the ticket for failure
to stay between the lines. It's harrassment. I'll win, but it will take up
my time. Then, to make sure it doesn't happen again, I'll slap a civil
servant complaint on him. If he wants my time, he's going to get it.

D.

He'll get time-and-a half for his time. What'll you get for yours?
Harrassment (sic) and a civil servant complaint? Surely you have
something more worthwhile to spend your time and money on. As to your
complaint....did he insult you, curse at you, hit you or push you
around? What are you going to complain about? Make sure it doesn't
happen again? How's that? You'll win? I wouldn't count on it. How
can you be sure? You sound like the typical juvenile that drives like
he owns the road and then gets mad at "daddy" when he gets caught and
punished. Grow up. Win or lose in court, you're the big loser for
all the money and time it'll cost you while the cop puts gobs of
overtime money in his pocket. You act like you're the first one that
ever got a ticket. How many do you have in your portfolio?

KJSDCAUSA

Yeah, just the other day I got a ticket from a kid who could barely shave.
I
went across 3 lanes to get to the exit ramp. He wrote the ticket for
failure
to stay between the lines. It's harrassment. I'll win, but it will take up
my time. Then, to make sure it doesn't happen again, I'll slap a civil
servant complaint on him. If he wants my time, he's going to get it.

D.


Captain Doug,
That last part about a civil servant complaint on the officer for doing his
job. You didn't say anything about his conduct or anything else other than
he was too young to shave. That last part makes you an ASSHOLE and aTURD in
my book. I wish I knew your name and where this occurred and I would provide
the court with your e-mail, then we would see how far your civil servant
complaint would go. Crossing three lanes of traffic has nothing to do with
my opinion of you.
Prick!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dale

In article , Barnyard BOb --
writes:


How quick you are to pass judgement. You weren't even there, were you? Do
you know for a fact that there was any other traffic? Do you know for a
fact
that I wasn't in the correct lane well before the exit? Do you know for a
fact how many feet elapsed between each individual lane change? Perhaps you
would do well to take your own advice and cool it off a little before
posting that which you are only guessing at.

D.

Guessing at what you said which was that YOU crossed three lanes to get to
the
exit. You made no indication that you did anything else. Sorry if I can't
just blindly give you a lot of support, I have seen what happens when
drivers
cross three lanes trying to make an exit they should just bypass. If the
cop
gave you a ticket, its a damn safe bet you did so in an unsafe manner. Now
quit whining and pay the ticket.

Bob Reed
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

How odd.
.
Your advice sounds exactly like Jaun's.....
telling you to shut up about your BD-5 screwing. ;-(


Barnyard Bob --



You don't see a difference, OK, thats your option.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

"Capt. Doug" wrote in message ...
RobertR237 wrote in message If you went across three lanes to get to an
exit ramp you should
have received a ticket. It is a stupid move that I have seen cause
accidents
and at least one death. You should have been in the correct lane well
before
the exit or gone on to the next exit.

How quick you are to pass judgement. You weren't even there, were you? Do
you know for a fact that there was any other traffic? Do you know for a fact
that I wasn't in the correct lane well before the exit? Do you know for a
fact how many feet elapsed between each individual lane change? Perhaps you
would do well to take your own advice and cool it off a little before
posting that which you are only guessing at.

D.

Pure fiction follows...
Yep no doubt about it Doug. Since you're commuting to work this makes
you automatically guilty. :-( Why would we take the word of a man
with a million dollars of training in fifty-million dollar machines
over a twenty-two year old wonder with one-month OTJ turned loose on
society? ;-)

Reminds me of the old gov "pilot error" refrain. Pre-1980's there was
no such thing as wind shear. Wind quit on that hard landing? asks the
FAA air cop? Automatic pilot error. Had to be. In fact, when you
think about it, it is always pilot error, since we never hold the
government accountable for screwing up transportation in general.
Be nice to fly to work again. Expensive, but oh so satisfying. I
used to lean over in my Aztec and peer out the storm window down at
the commuting bugs inching down their noodle highways at 65mph vrs my
165Knots (best econ) with shear contempt! Oh you pitiful little bugs!
Look out for the man! He's down there somewhere.. under an overpass
just itchin to generate some more revenue for the city! HA HA HA!
There's a cruiser now! Let me just open this little storm window and
fly the bird on this fine morning! Hey officer.. look up! I'm doing
close to 200mph now with em smashed to the wall! Let's buzz this
mo-fo for all those tickets I got in college. One hundred feet's O.K.
in an "other than sparsely populated area" right? Five for persons
or property? What? A patrol car is considered property? What if
it's *your* property we're talking about here? Well, I'm a taxpayer..
so I own a certain percentage of this cop car in my windshield, right?
What the hell, let's do it anyway!

ZZZZZzzzzzzzooooooooooommmmmMMMM!!!!

Pull up and keep the tail pointed at him till I get over this hill
here...
LOL!

Not smart, but it feels so good. Better than drugs, I say!

HA HA HA!

Then I had to join those bugs a year later when they closed my base.
AArragg!

Sometimes you just can't get a break.

pacplyer - out

On 29 Sep 2003 14:30:37 GMT, osite (RobertR237)
wrote:



How odd.
.
Your advice sounds exactly like Jaun's.....
telling you to shut up about your BD-5 screwing. ;-(


Barnyard Bob --



You don't see a difference, OK, thats your option.


Bob Reed
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I see quite well, thank you.

Your cause MIGHT be more just, but....
whinning is whinning and you have
done more than your fair share.

That was my only point.


Barnyard Bob --
If you live in a glass house, be
careful about throwing stones.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:35:29 -0500, Barnyard BOb --
wrote:

Hey, Barnyard....

Do you mean "whining" or "winning"???

jon



I see quite well, thank you.

Your cause MIGHT be more just, but....
whinning is whinning and you have
done more than your fair share.

That was my only point.


Barnyard Bob --
If you live in a glass house, be
careful about throwing stones.

"dale" wrote in message ...
Yeah, just the other day I got a ticket from a kid who could barely shave.
I
went across 3 lanes to get to the exit ramp. He wrote the ticket for
failure
to stay between the lines. It's harrassment. I'll win, but it will take up
my time. Then, to make sure it doesn't happen again, I'll slap a civil
servant complaint on him. If he wants my time, he's going to get it.

D.


Captain Doug,
That last part about a civil servant complaint on the officer for doing his
job. You didn't say anything about his conduct or anything else other than
he was too young to shave. That last part makes you an ASSHOLE and aTURD in
my book. I wish I knew your name and where this occurred and I would provide
the court with your e-mail, then we would see how far your civil servant
complaint would go. Crossing three lanes of traffic has nothing to do with
my opinion of you.
Prick!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dale


You do that Dale. If you dare to sink that far into the gutter, don't
be suprised if one of us informs the FAA of your illegal drug use that
you posted right here in RAH. It would be a bit of poetic justice as
far as I am concerned.

Right back up your ass Dale,

pacplyer