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The city air traveler is well served by the airline industry, with
99.99 percent
showing no interest in piloting. Like air-show announcer and UAL Cap.
Herb Hunter
said, "I only fly planes with kitchens and lavs".

JG



Yes, and of course he learned to fly on 747s

So Stadt-ville is offering to build affordable housing for low income
people?
$100 Millions worth of condos going up west of Meigs.

JG

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Orval Fairbairn wrote:
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Orval Fairbairn wrote:
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Again, what's YOUR evidence that the CPD has a park
surplus?


Look at a map. Most of the lakeshore is occupied by parks.

Most? Portions occupy the space between LSD and the lake, and
portions
are private residencies and industrial. What's your standard
for
adequate public parks, for 3 million people?

JG

OK, buster, let's turn the tables: what do you think should be
the
standard for adequate GA airports for a city of 3 million
people?

I frankly haven't seen a movement by a large portion of the
citizens
for more capacity. MDW's size is 1 square mile and seems to due
just
fine.
ORD takes GA, but ya gotta pay the fees. Land is expensive, so
there's
a limit for any new fields within city limits. Outside, Lansing,
Gary,
DPA, Shaumburg, Palwaukee, and Waukegan serve the region fine.


I guess that those places would be good places for parks, no?

In general, post WW-2 suburbs included ample park space, but IMHO
Waukegan's
lakefront location could be attractive for residential development.

Lakefront
property is expensive, so all those parks must be worth a bundle to
developers, no?

As is central park in NYC, but try selling off and see what happens!

The Mission of the Chi. PD is:
"Come Out & Play!
Discover the pleasures of Chicago Park District treasures! The Chicago
Park District manages over 220 stunning facilities throughout the city
- most can play host to your next event.
For more information about the Chicago Park District's more than 7300
acres of parkland, 552 parks, 33 beaches, nine museums, two
world-class
conservatories, 16 historic lagoons, 10 bird and wildlife gardens,
thousands of special events, sports and entertaining programs, please
continue on through the event section."

Many CPD parks aren't fit for humans. They are rundown, crime ridden,
god
forsaken places which would better serve the community if Walmart were
to
build on the property. Several downtown areas are nice but other than
that
"dump" is a better description than park.

Many urban cities have similiar problems, and non-city dwellers should
feel
grateful that cities house some unwanted residents. Walmart would
want the land for free, plus additional subsidies.

Give it to them. Think of the boon to the economy. New jobs, sales and
property tax revenue, etc. The city would be foolish not to give the
rundown drug and crime infested parks to Walmart.


JG

Morgans wrote:
"Orval Fairbairn" wrote

GA airports are part of our transportation system and fill a vital role
there. Only a fool would deny that.

Not too mention that a whole lot of GA is training and building hours, for
commercial pilots. Everyone wants to have pilots for their aluminum tubes,
don't they?
--
Jim in NC

The US military produces fine commercial candidates, a good deal:
Training
to defend the county (most of the time) and qualified commericial
pilots
upon retirement.

JG

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The city air traveler is well served by the airline industry, with
99.99 percent
showing no interest in piloting. Like air-show announcer and UAL Cap.
Herb Hunter
said, "I only fly planes with kitchens and lavs".

JG



Yes, and of course he learned to fly on 747s

He never learned to fly, what he does is more akin to and in many ways
easier than driving a bus.

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So by your definition, 9/11 was nothing also, a wreck is a wreck.


Please show me where he defined 9/11 as nothing.



This place has had more wrecks on a percentage of operations basis
than
ORD.


Does it? What are the operations counts for ORD and LL22 and how many
wrecks have they had in the same time period?

Let's see, ORD does 100K's a year, LL22 maybe 10-20 a day.
During my 15 years in the area, Wrecks:
LL22-Two
ORD- an AMR jet hits the dirt, short of the rr. No injuries, but if you
miss the concrete and raise dirt clouds, thats a wreck in my book.
A decent record, but given Murphy's rule maybe a foam-er is due.

JG

I seem to remember a huge cloud of smoke upon leaving work one day back in
the '80s. Hundreds died. Based on your twisted thought process I guess you
should be lobbying to have O'Hare closed.

The UAL DC-10 crashed in 1979. I support following proper maintenance
procedures, especially when mounting engines.

JG

Orval Fairbairn wrote:

Then where has all the money gone over 15 years? 300 DOLLARS

The politicians didn't like that, so they suppressed this program.

What is suppressed, plenty of GA airports in CA and plenty of WRECKS
compare Fullerton to LAX.


I see that "jgrove" omitted the fact that CA airports study showed
$110K/year economic benefit to airport areas per based aircraft (old
data, so we should assume more). He doesn't mention the amount of his
taxes going toward supporting street bums (sorry -- "homeless") or
bicycle lanes or other "feel good" tax-supported programs.

There are NO entries on my RESIDENTAL PROPERTY TAX BILL for:
-DuPage Bum Authority (many churches provide shelter services thru
PADS)
-Hoover Dam
-Yosemite NP
-Waikiki Beach
-New Jersey Turnpike
-Golden Gate Bridge

There is for the DPA.

JG

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So Stadt-ville is offering to build affordable housing for low income
people?
$100 Millions worth of condos going up west of Meigs.

JG

Don't forget the south side. Lots of redevelopment potential down there
also. Think of all the low income housing that could have been built or
rehab work that could have been done with millenium park money. How many
tens of millions of dollars was that project over budget? How many west
and south siders get to use it? If maggie was a true humanitarian she
should have had dickey build low income housing on northerly island. How
far do you think that would have gotten with the down town jet setters?

$100 million is a drop in the bucket. That's maybe 200 to 300 units, not
even worth mentioning really.

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I see that "jgrove" omitted the fact that CA airports study showed
$110K/year economic benefit to airport areas per based aircraft (old
data, so we should assume more). He doesn't mention the amount of his
taxes going toward supporting street bums (sorry -- "homeless") or
bicycle lanes or other "feel good" tax-supported programs.

There are NO entries on my RESIDENTAL PROPERTY TAX BILL for:
-DuPage Bum Authority (many churches provide shelter services thru
PADS)
-Hoover Dam
-Yosemite NP
-Waikiki Beach
-New Jersey Turnpike
-Golden Gate Bridge

I cannot speak to the others, but the NJ Turnpike gets funding from the
state's tax on fuel. It also has received federal monies in the past.

However, I see that our economic illiterate is still unable to address the
issue of monies brought into an area by a GA airport.

- Andrew

Arketip wrote:
wrote:



The city air traveler is well served by the airline industry, with
99.99 percent
showing no interest in piloting. Like air-show announcer and UAL Cap.
Herb Hunter
said, "I only fly planes with kitchens and lavs".

JG



Yes, and of course he learned to fly on 747s

Cap. Hunter mentioned training in the USAF and retired from reserve
service.