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Old July 22nd 05, 06:35 PM
Allen
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Go to: www.kvbc.com

and whatch the video on a twin comander crash at N Las

Vegas VGT.

That is wild stuff there.


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Old July 22nd 05, 06:50 PM
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Allen wrote:

and whatch the video on a twin comander crash at N Las

Vegas VGT.

That is wild stuff there


Gotta love Live TV coverage.

Reporter (talking about how the rescue crews dealt with trying to stop one
of the engines that was still running):

"Firefighters moved in and started spraying water and foam directly at the
spinning propeller trying get the thing to short out, or overload, or
stall and that's in fact what ended up happening. They finally got that
propeller to stop spinning."

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Old July 22nd 05, 07:10 PM
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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Allen wrote:

and whatch the video on a twin comander crash at N Las

Vegas VGT.

That is wild stuff there


Gotta love Live TV coverage.

Reporter (talking about how the rescue crews dealt with trying to stop one
of the engines that was still running):

"Firefighters moved in and started spraying water and foam directly at the
spinning propeller trying get the thing to short out, or overload, or
stall and that's in fact what ended up happening. They finally got that
propeller to stop spinning."

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Peter


What amazed me was the amount of damage to the front of the aircraft and
there were no deaths.

Allen


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Old July 22nd 05, 07:26 PM
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Peter R. wrote:

Reporter (talking about how the rescue crews dealt with trying to stop one
of the engines that was still running):

"Firefighters moved in and started spraying water and foam directly at the
spinning propeller trying get the thing to short out, or overload, or
stall and that's in fact what ended up happening. They finally got that
propeller to stop spinning."


Well, aside from his not knowing how a turbine engine works, the report
seemed pretty factual and devoid of speculation or exaggeration.

-cwk.

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Old July 22nd 05, 07:40 PM
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Well, aside from his not knowing how a turbine engine works, the report
seemed pretty factual and devoid of speculation or exaggeration.

-cwk.


No, this was an older piston engine model. I still don't see how they shut
it down with water and foam except maybe a direct flow into the filter
intake.

Allen


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Old July 22nd 05, 07:41 PM
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wrote in message
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Peter R. wrote:

Reporter (talking about how the rescue crews dealt with trying to stop
one
of the engines that was still running):

"Firefighters moved in and started spraying water and foam directly at
the
spinning propeller trying get the thing to short out, or overload, or
stall and that's in fact what ended up happening. They finally got that
propeller to stop spinning."


Well, aside from his not knowing how a turbine engine works, the report
seemed pretty factual and devoid of speculation or exaggeration.

-cwk.


Says alot for the engines installed in the airplane though. Takes a lick'n
and keeps on tick'n.


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Old July 22nd 05, 07:44 PM
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Well, aside from his not knowing how a turbine engine works, the report
seemed pretty factual and devoid of speculation or exaggeration.


"engine made a sputtering sound"

http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/NNum...NNumbertxt=7up
N7UP
Engine Manufacturer LYCOMING
Classification Standard
Engine Model IO-720

The original Aero Commander was piston, several models were piston, some
were built with turboprops, some were upgraded to turboprops, however
this 1964 680FL doesn't appear to be...
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Old July 22nd 05, 07:53 PM
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
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Says alot for the engines installed in the airplane though. Takes a lick'n
and keeps on tick'n.


It seems more likely that the engine suffered no trauma at all. Certainly,
with the nose hitting first, and the plane resting on the *right* wing and
fuselage, there's no reason to necessarily believe that the left engine or
propeller had any significant contact with the ground at all.

So, I'd say this accident says very little about the engines installed in
the airplane.

Pete


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Old July 22nd 05, 08:20 PM
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Peter Duniho wrote:

"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
news:n7bEe.40522$DC2.15350@okepread01...



Says alot for the engines installed in the airplane though. Takes a lick'n
and keeps on tick'n.



It seems more likely that the engine suffered no trauma at all. Certainly,
with the nose hitting first, and the plane resting on the *right* wing and
fuselage, there's no reason to necessarily believe that the left engine or
propeller had any significant contact with the ground at all.

So, I'd say this accident says very little about the engines installed in
the airplane.


I read that as if he was talking about the fact that it took awhile for
the engine to stop even while spraying water and foam on it

As an aside, what do you think the G load was on that engine at the
time the plane hit the ground?

I thought it made for an amusing side note that the front end of the
plane (cockpit) was completely destroyed/demolished/missing...and the
engine just kept on truckin as though nothing was wrong

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Old July 22nd 05, 08:25 PM
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Peter R. wrote:

Well, aside from his not knowing how a turbine engine works, the report
seemed pretty factual and devoid of speculation or exaggeration.

-cwk.

-----------------------------------------reply-------------------------------------------------------

A mechanic tried to stop the engine first. When he was not successful the
fire-fighters sprayed it down.

Stephen


 




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