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Old October 6th 08, 12:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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I am considering KLN-90B as replacement for my M-3 Approach. Question
for experienced KLN-90B users: Legality aside, can you operate
KLN-90B in approach mode (doing GPS approaches) with an outdated
database?

Thanks in advance,

Robin Hou
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Old October 6th 08, 01:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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I am considering KLN-90B as replacement for my M-3 Approach. Question
for experienced KLN-90B users: Legality aside, can you operate
KLN-90B in approach mode (doing GPS approaches) with an outdated
database?

Thanks in advance,

Robin Hou


Yes.

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Old October 17th 08, 01:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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"Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in message
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" wrote in message
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I am considering KLN-90B as replacement for my M-3 Approach. Question
for experienced KLN-90B users: Legality aside, can you operate
KLN-90B in approach mode (doing GPS approaches) with an outdated
database?

Thanks in advance,

Robin Hou


Yes.

anybody who does an approach in actual using a gps with an outdated data
base on a gps approach is just plain stupid.



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Old October 17th 08, 03:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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"comanche driver" spamawayassh.ole wrote in message
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"Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in message
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I am considering KLN-90B as replacement for my M-3 Approach. Question
for experienced KLN-90B users: Legality aside, can you operate
KLN-90B in approach mode (doing GPS approaches) with an outdated
database?

Thanks in advance,

Robin Hou


Yes.

anybody who does an approach in actual using a gps with an outdated data
base on a gps approach is just plain stupid.


Be that as it may you can still train on the GPS with an outdated database
in VMC all you want, which is why I assumed he was asking the question.

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Old October 18th 08, 12:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:30:21 GMT, "Mike" nospam @ microsoft.com
wrote:

"comanche driver" spamawayassh.ole wrote in message
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"Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in message
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" wrote in message
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I am considering KLN-90B as replacement for my M-3 Approach. Question
for experienced KLN-90B users: Legality aside, can you operate
KLN-90B in approach mode (doing GPS approaches) with an outdated
database?

Thanks in advance,

Robin Hou

Yes.

anybody who does an approach in actual using a gps with an outdated data
base on a gps approach is just plain stupid.


Be that as it may you can still train on the GPS with an outdated database
in VMC all you want, which is why I assumed he was asking the question.


Until the procedure is changed and the waypoints on the box and on the
chart don't match any more.
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Old October 19th 08, 01:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Mike
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"Peter" wrote in message
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"comanche driver" spamawayassh.ole wrote


"Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in message
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" wrote in message
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I am considering KLN-90B as replacement for my M-3 Approach. Question
for experienced KLN-90B users: Legality aside, can you operate
KLN-90B in approach mode (doing GPS approaches) with an outdated
database?

Thanks in advance,

Robin Hou

Yes.

anybody who does an approach in actual using a gps with an outdated data
base on a gps approach is just plain stupid.


This doesn't answer your Q but may I ask why the KLN90B? It is an out
of date product, WAY out of date in fact, and no longer made or even
properly supported with database updates (the flash card is too
small).

If you are looking for that size unit, a KLN94 is a lot better.


The KLN90B is fully supported by database updates. I think you're confusing
it with the KLN89B which has a smaller card, but even in the case of the
KLN89B the only thing you lose is Canada and South America which is not a
problem for most.

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Old October 20th 08, 03:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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Mike wrote:
"Peter" wrote in message
news

"comanche driver" spamawayassh.ole wrote


"Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in message
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" wrote in message
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I am considering KLN-90B as replacement for my M-3 Approach. Question
for experienced KLN-90B users: Legality aside, can you operate
KLN-90B in approach mode (doing GPS approaches) with an outdated
database?

Thanks in advance,

Robin Hou

Yes.
anybody who does an approach in actual using a gps with an outdated
data
base on a gps approach is just plain stupid.


This doesn't answer your Q but may I ask why the KLN90B? It is an out
of date product, WAY out of date in fact, and no longer made or even
properly supported with database updates (the flash card is too
small).

If you are looking for that size unit, a KLN94 is a lot better.


The KLN90B is fully supported by database updates. I think you're
confusing it with the KLN89B which has a smaller card, but even in the
case of the KLN89B the only thing you lose is Canada and South America
which is not a problem for most.


The 89/B is fully supported. I load database updates from downloads and
my laptop. The 89/B is a fine unit but, agree, dated. I have been told
that it will connect for GPSS steering but the 94/B will not.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI
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Old October 20th 08, 03:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Mike
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"Ross" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:
"Peter" wrote in message
news

"comanche driver" spamawayassh.ole wrote


"Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in message
...
" wrote in message
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I am considering KLN-90B as replacement for my M-3 Approach.
Question
for experienced KLN-90B users: Legality aside, can you operate
KLN-90B in approach mode (doing GPS approaches) with an outdated
database?

Thanks in advance,

Robin Hou

Yes.
anybody who does an approach in actual using a gps with an outdated
data
base on a gps approach is just plain stupid.


This doesn't answer your Q but may I ask why the KLN90B? It is an out
of date product, WAY out of date in fact, and no longer made or even
properly supported with database updates (the flash card is too
small).

If you are looking for that size unit, a KLN94 is a lot better.


The KLN90B is fully supported by database updates. I think you're
confusing it with the KLN89B which has a smaller card, but even in the
case of the KLN89B the only thing you lose is Canada and South America
which is not a problem for most.


The 89/B is fully supported. I load database updates from downloads and
my laptop. The 89/B is a fine unit but, agree, dated. I have been told
that it will connect for GPSS steering but the 94/B will not.


It depends on your definition of fully supported. In the case of the
KLN89B, you must choose between 3 different options for the Americas. If
you choose the US option, you will get all of the approaches for Canada and
South America, but you won't get the complete database for those areas. The
KLN90B will take all of the Americas on one update. This is not really an
issue for most people.

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Old October 20th 08, 05:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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Mike wrote:
"Ross" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:
"Peter" wrote in message
news
"comanche driver" spamawayassh.ole wrote


"Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in message
...
" wrote in message
...

I am considering KLN-90B as replacement for my M-3 Approach.
Question
for experienced KLN-90B users: Legality aside, can you operate
KLN-90B in approach mode (doing GPS approaches) with an outdated
database?

Thanks in advance,

Robin Hou

Yes.
anybody who does an approach in actual using a gps with an
outdated data
base on a gps approach is just plain stupid.


This doesn't answer your Q but may I ask why the KLN90B? It is an out
of date product, WAY out of date in fact, and no longer made or even
properly supported with database updates (the flash card is too
small).

If you are looking for that size unit, a KLN94 is a lot better.

The KLN90B is fully supported by database updates. I think you're
confusing it with the KLN89B which has a smaller card, but even in
the case of the KLN89B the only thing you lose is Canada and South
America which is not a problem for most.


The 89/B is fully supported. I load database updates from downloads
and my laptop. The 89/B is a fine unit but, agree, dated. I have been
told that it will connect for GPSS steering but the 94/B will not.


It depends on your definition of fully supported. In the case of the
KLN89B, you must choose between 3 different options for the Americas.
If you choose the US option, you will get all of the approaches for
Canada and South America, but you won't get the complete database for
those areas. The KLN90B will take all of the Americas on one update.
This is not really an issue for most people.


Yes, I know. I have had this about 8 years and I mis loaded the database
a couple of months ago. I picked Canada. Who knows why. I contacted
Honeywell and they gave me back my download and I did the correct one.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI
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Old October 21st 08, 05:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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I would still vote for the 89B. The '94 is plug compatible and makes
a nice
upgrade. It's a lot like a 430 on the GPS side.

The 90B has no upgrade path whatever. Not plug compatible with
anything.

Bill Hale

On Oct 5, 6:25*pm, "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote:
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I am considering KLN-90B as replacement for my M-3 Approach. *Question
for experienced KLN-90B users: *Legality aside, can you operate
KLN-90B in approach mode (doing GPS approaches) with an outdated
database?


Thanks in advance,


Robin Hou


Yes.


 




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