Flying high: Lockheed wins presidential helicopter contract

Flying high
Lockheed Martin yesterday won a $1.7 billion contract to build a new
fleet of presidential helicopters, a prestigious award for the Bethesda
defense contractor and its European partners, who will make part of the
aircraft.
at http://www.washingtontimes.com/busin...0241-9135r.htm

Lockheed Team Wins Redesign Of Marine One
For Sikorsky, Loss of Contract Also Symbolizes Slip in Prestige
at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Jan28.html

Is this good?
JD

JD wrote:

Is this good?
JD




Well if you work at Sikorsky, not really. As a overall deal? It's Ok I
guess.

"Tiger" wrote in message
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JD wrote:

Is this good?
JD




Well if you work at Sikorsky, not really. As a overall deal? It's Ok I
guess.


Apart from the French parts...
Is there a competitor left?

" wrote:

Flying high
Lockheed Martin yesterday won a $1.7 billion contract to build a new
fleet of presidential helicopters, a prestigious award for the Bethesda
defense contractor and its European partners, who will make part of the
aircraft.
at http://www.washingtontimes.com/busin...0241-9135r.htm

"Mr. Young said the total Marine One development and acquisition cost
would be $6.1 billion for 23 helicopters, with the first scheduled for
delivery in October 2009. Mr. Young said the total Marine One
development and acquisition cost would be $6.1 billion for 23
helicopters, with the first scheduled for delivery in October 2009."

Whoa! $6.1 Billion for 23 units is $265 million per helicopter.
I dunno sounds like a lot...too much actually.

Jay

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(JJ) wrote:

"Mr. Young said the total Marine One development and acquisition cost
would be $6.1 billion for 23 helicopters, with the first scheduled for
delivery in October 2009. Mr. Young said the total Marine One
development and acquisition cost would be $6.1 billion for 23
helicopters, with the first scheduled for delivery in October 2009."

Whoa! $6.1 Billion for 23 units is $265 million per helicopter.
I dunno sounds like a lot...too much actually.

Actually, I believe this is actually for several decades of support and
maintenance. They're not just buying helicopters, but a long-term service
contract.



D

"D" wrote:

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In article ,
(JJ) wrote:

"Mr. Young said the total Marine One development and acquisition cost
would be $6.1 billion for 23 helicopters, with the first scheduled for
delivery in October 2009. Mr. Young said the total Marine One
development and acquisition cost would be $6.1 billion for 23
helicopters, with the first scheduled for delivery in October 2009."

Whoa! $6.1 Billion for 23 units is $265 million per helicopter.
I dunno sounds like a lot...too much actually.

Actually, I believe this is actually for several decades of support and
maintenance. They're not just buying helicopters, but a long-term service
contract.
D

I'll go read the article again - don't they usually say something
about "life cycle costs" for support and maintenance? The article
just says development (can be BIG bucks) and acquisition costs.

Of course, newspaper articles are never wrong. :-)

Jay

(JJ) wrote in news:4212f516.129150218
@news2.flex.com:
Whoa! $6.1 Billion for 23 units is $265 million per helicopter.
I dunno sounds like a lot...too much actually.

And of course, one may wonder why we need 23 helicopters for 1 president?

--lw--

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wrote:

Whoa! $6.1 Billion for 23 units is $265 million per helicopter.
I dunno sounds like a lot...too much actually.

And of course, one may wonder why we need 23 helicopters for 1 president?

Because they serve people other than the President. And there are other
security concerns as well.

For starters, whenever Marine One flies, there are two other identical
helicopters flying with it, as decoys. I live near Washington and have
watched Marine One come in to land at the White House. If you look, you can
usually see the other two helos flying around. I have also seen three of
them land down on the Mall, carrying a lot of VIPs. I think that the German
Prime Minister was in town that time. Plus they're going to have several
that are deployable, several in training, several in maintenance.

I think that 23 is somewhat high, but I can easily see how they would need
more than a dozen of them.



D

23 helicopters for the 23 people:

1) the President
2) the Vice-President
3) The First Lady, Mrs. Bush
4) Mrs. Cheney
5) the Chief of Staff
6) National Security Adviser
6) the assistant to the President
7) the assistant to the Vice-President
8) the deputy to the assistant to the President
9) the deputy o the assistant to the Vice-President
10) Director of the White House Military Office
11) Deputy Director of the White House Military Office
12) Chief of the Council of Economic Advisers to go to Wall Street
13) Chairman of the Council on Environmental Quality to test the water
14) Director of the Office of Management & Budget to go to Capitol Hill
15) The Director of the National Drug Control Policy to go to Colombia
16) Head of the Office of Policy Development to see how our domestic
policy is doing
17) Director of the NAtional AIDS Policy to deliver meals to AIDS
patients
18) Director of the NAtional Economic Council to see how we spend our
tax dollars
19) Director of the Science and Technology Policy to see if S&T is
working
20) U.S. Trade Representative to see if our embargo on beef is working
21) Permanent Representative to UN to tell countries to vote for us or
lose foreign aid
22) Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, top secret missions
23) Me!!!