USAF(?) unit patch ID

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2nd Bomb wing has two Flor de Leis (spelling...help...) and at least one
other

"Fleurs de lys"


ArVa

2nd Bomb wing has two Flor de Leis (spelling...help...) and at least one
other

"Fleurs de lys"

Thank you.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

On 15 Apr 2004 12:10:39 GMT, (BUFDRVR) wrote:

Just because a unit served in France doesn't mean it had to have a
French motto, and vice versa.

Yes and no. The 2nd Bomb wing is one of the "original" Army Air Corps flying
wings, its emblem is displayed with 7 (I think its 7 others, maybe 8?) other
"original" Army Air Corps wings on the Air Force corridor in the Pentagon. All
8 "original" units have something on their emblem that ties them to France. The
2nd Bomb wing has two Flor de Leis (spelling...help...)

I meant not specific to AAC but to the Army as a whole.

Quibble: the authorized 2nd Bomb Wing symbol has only ONE
fleur-de-lys.

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John Hairell

Quibble: the authorized 2nd Bomb Wing symbol has only ONE
fleur-de-lys.

Hmmm, I can't find one at the moment, and I stopped wearing one after
graduating from Weapons School in DEC 00, but I thought there were two???


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
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Quibble: the authorized 2nd Bomb Wing symbol has only ONE
fleur-de-lys.

Hmmm, I can't find one at the moment, and I stopped wearing one after
graduating from Weapons School in DEC 00, but I thought there were two???


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it
harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

http://www.au.af.mil/au/afhra/wwwroo...ges/0002bw.php

Tex

Tex Houston wrote:

"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
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Quibble: the authorized 2nd Bomb Wing symbol has only ONE
fleur-de-lys.

Hmmm, I can't find one at the moment, and I stopped wearing one after
graduating from Weapons School in DEC 00, but I thought there were two???

http://www.au.af.mil/au/afhra/wwwroo...ges/0002bw.php

It seems like the AF emblem (re)designers are changing a
lot of stuff that's been around, unchanged for for almost
90 years.
The 43rd TFS, for example, my first real squadron out of
tech school. Ops had old photos on the walls of WW I
planes sporting almost exactly the same design I wore.
(Almost exactly, because the squadron designation had
changed over the years: Pursuit/Tactical Fighter/just
plain Fighter...)
The only thing the current 43rd emblem has in common with
history is that it includes a (skinnier) bumblebee wearing
boxing gloves. The emblem outline is today some avant-garde
lazy "S" shape.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/afhra/wwwroo...ges/0002bw.php

Tex


Thanks Tex. Now the big question. How in God's name do you wear something on
your left sleeve 5-6 days a week for 4+ years and find yourself unable to
accurately describe it?


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

BUFDRVR wrote:

Even units whose history began in France may display their motto in Latin. The
2nd Bomb Wings origins begin in France, yet both its patches had the motto in
Latin. Morto et Destructo - a very cool yet un-PC Death and Destruction and
Liberatus Defensmus (not sure about spelling there) - Defenders of
Liberty(boring!).

That should be something along the lines of "Libertas Defensores" for
the latter. "Death and Destruction" would be "Mors et Eversio".
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

From: (BUFDRVR)
Date: 4/15/2004 4:55 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

http://www.au.af.mil/au/afhra/wwwroo...ges/0002bw.php

Tex


Thanks Tex. Now the big question. How in God's name do you wear something on
your left sleeve 5-6 days a week for 4+ years and find yourself unable to
accurately describe it?


BUFDRVR


Simple, you tend to tune it out after awhile and most people simply don't
notice. I used to wear a TAC patch with the sword in the wrong direction and no
one noticed. Right now I couldn't tell you which way its supposed to go without
looking it up.

There were several unauthorized SAC patches that were popular: mailed fist
making the one finger salute, holding a scrotum, marijuana leaves etc. I think
I may have seen one where "Strategic Air Command" was replaced by "SACumsized."

Over seas flight crew name tags were quite creative. I knew a Capt. Tomato at
Hahn AB whose name tag read "Rotten" where his name should have been, and that
was one of the few clean ones.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

That should be something along the lines of "Libertas Defensores" for
the latter.

Actually the exact phrase on the patch is "Libertatem Defendimus" according to
the web site Tex put up, its means "Liberty We Defend".

"Death and Destruction" would be "Mors et Eversio".

The original patch said "Mors et Destructio" which sounds like Death and
Destruction to me, but as you can see, I'm not Latin expert.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"