Bible-beater pilots

I hate to resort to name calling, but you asked for it. What a
self-righteous ass you are.

There are many beliefs in this world, and thank whatever supreme being there
may well be that we live in a country where you can choose to follow
whatever faith (including none) you want.

I don't have the patience or good manners of Mr. Honeck; after a polite
explanation to any bible thumpers in mid-proselytize, if they persisted I
would tell them to f-off.


"Ian" wrote in message
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Anyone ever run into this before? What did you do?

All you had to do was get up and leave instead of agonizing over the
politeness of how to exit. Nobody forced you to sit there and listen to
it.

It's clear you and your family have no moral guidance. I can see how
being
raised a Catholic has got you out of tune with God, that's pretty common.
Sure, faith is a personal thing, but we're also commanded to spread the
good
news. Tell others. That's what they were doing. You make it sound like
you were trapped because it makes them sound evil and you appear a victim
and we'll feel sorry for you. It's real funny to laugh at the apparent
hypocrites who want to tell you something important while sitting in a
casino. Well they are as imperfect as the rest of us. Who knows - maybe
they go to the casino just to evangelize because they know there are
people
there like you who need to hear it. It's the message that's important,
not
the person delivering it. Your rejection of the message does not diminish
its truth. Feel free to continue denying God, it is obviously your
choice.
It is your unalienable right in this great country to have whatever
religion
you want, including none at all. When you're standing at the final
judgement you're going to feel pretty silly remembering how you should
have
listened, believed, acted, and provided some leadership to your family in
this most important area of their lives. Are you going to teach your
children about Jesus or let them wander in apathy ? So far, you are lost.
If you think your own inner self, your conscience, your innate sense of
right and wrong should be your guide, if you think its enough just to be a
good person, then you've got it all backwards.

Your prolific newsgroup posting over the last several years now has
provided
some interesting insight into your personality. We know what you look
like,
where you live, what you like to do, where you like to go, how you earn a
living. Isn't it time you quit worshipping the Pathfinder parked out back
and sought out some real meaning to why you're here ? Some real guidance
in
your life ? Pick up the Bible and take another look. That's the real
POH.
It's especially hard for smart, successful people like yourself to believe
that they need Jesus because it makes them accept the fact that they are
inadequate and incomplete without Him. Well get used to that concept.
From
the janitor to the CEO and from the gambler to the hotel owner, that is
exactly what we all need. The only difference is in how long it takes
each
of us to figure it out and make the single most important decision your
entire life. To accept Jesus or reject him. It's just between you and
Him,
nobody else. What is it going to be ?

Sometimes it's the funnest part of my day.

You're not a well man, Jim.

'Course, that's why I like you! :-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jim explains

Can I leave my card?
"No, did I mention that you are on private property?"
What do you mean?
"This is private property, you weren't invited, so you're traspassing"
Huh?
"Do you have a village solicitation permit?"
Huh?
"Did you see the sign on the edge of town that says permit required for
solicitation?"

I do that to the Witnesses & the Mormons. I ask if they were invited
to the complex by a homeowner. Of course they always answer NO. Then
I inform them of the trespassing laws and as soon as I close the door
I'm calling the cops.

I guess my address is now on their "Do No Call" list. The Witnesses
were here yesterday but no one came to my door.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"Blanche Cohen" wrote in message

I've long equated Religion with Mathematics. Each begins with a
hypothesis that cannot be proved or disproved, and everything builds
on that assumption.

There is damn little in religion that can be proved or disproved.

I rest my case.

Raised Catholic but will die free.
Watched people build a congregation so a priest could tear it down.
Watched Bishops sell the churches out from under the people then rape
their
pocketbooks for new ones.
Watched priests come and go but never stay, only milking the community for
all it was worth before deserting them.
Watched priests give parish funds to drug dealers.
Watched priests sell parish property against parishioners wishes.
Watched priests refuse to marry or baptize "certain" people of the parish.
....and on and on and on
God has no religion, people create religion for their own gain.
God doesn't ruin religion, people ruin religion.

Wow, Jim -- I didn't know you attended the same church I went to as a boy!
;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:Wwfvb.262377$Fm2.278122@attbi_s04...

Anyone ever run into this before? What did you do?

I was raised with a Catholic mother and a Baptist father and while
moderately religous myself, I do not like to be preached at like that
at all. I usually look them straight in the eye and tell them I am
Jewish. That usually shuts them up instantly.

"Blanche Cohen" wrote in message
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I rest my case.


On what?

Simply that God is real, that He's pretty tolerant of
misunderstandings about Him, and that if you want to know more, He'll
lead you to the truth. He isn't described completely in any book of
scripture I know about, *including* the Bible.

What do you think about the Baha'i faith?

It addresses this very notion that no one religion (or book) captures the
spirit of God. I've found their theory of "Progressive Revelation" (in
short: All religions reveal a little piece of God, in their time) to be one
of the most logical approaches to religion.

Sadly, it's weighted down with a cult of personality toward its founder that
makes it all too familiar to a fallen-away Catholic.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

But what you've probably seen here, since it's very similar to many of
the atheist missives I've seen trying to steer people clear of the
Bible through a combination of out-of-context quoting and the fallacy
of misleading vividness, is paraphrased from something that's been
around for a long, long time.

Lol - then set us straight! What is one to think when they see such things
as the value of human life literally expressed in dollars (well, ok,
shekels) - and women being worth half that of men? Is there some underlying
message I'm missing?

Jay, if you were going about your business and they stopped you on the
street, I'd see your point. But you voluntarily joined a couple of
complete strangers for lunch.

True, but they were pilots. How many times have you joined a couple of
pilots for a (beer, lunch, dinner, pool party, fill in the blank) and had a
WONDERFUL time?

IMHO, these guys were nothing more than shills, masquerading as pilots.

My guess is that they got you
thinking about something you don't want to deal with.

Well, you're almost right. Religion is not something I want to deal with
when I'm eating lunch in a casino, any more than it's something I want to
read about on the bumper of the car ahead of me in traffic.

I'll never understand why anyone feels compelled to advertise their religion
in such tacky and disrespectful ways.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"