I give up, after many, many years!

Steve Foley writes:

I didn't learn math and physics by rote.

So?

On May 31, 5:51*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
terry writes:
And yes Anthony , I do arithmetic by
rote. *How do you do arithmetic, by first principles?

I've at least examined it theoretically.

Anyway, all the air pressure on our planet results from gravity, not
temperature or confinement or anything else.

I dont doubt you analysed it Anthony, but you still havent seen, or
aren't willing to admit , that you had it all wrong. Now what has the
SOURCE of the air pressure got to do with the discussion ? Change of
subject no 3.
Last chance Anthony. Why would the non containment of the atmosphere
prevent the ideal gas law in its form used by me not allow one to
calculate the air density in the vicinity of an airport? That is
what you have stated twice remember Anthony?

On May 31, 5:50*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Steve Foley writes:
The 'disagreement' that comes to mind was when you were applying the
incorrect trigonometric function to a vector analysis problem.

Which problem was that?

I know that when people learn something by rote, they often will not recognize
equally valid statements of the theory behind what they've learned. *I've seen
this happen even with extremely experienced pilots. *They learn something by
rote, you give a theoretical explanation thereof that they've never heard, and
since they don't know any underlying theory themselves (remember, they learned
by rote), they think the theory is wrong. *It would be amusing if it were not
so unfortunate.

I guess you can simply re-define anything you choose. Unfortunately, the
civilized world will probably disagree with your definitions as well.

There are lots of stupid people in the world, and lots of people who are
familiar with rote learning only. *Rote learning is what allows the majority
of the population to survive in a technologically complex world.

Yes Anthony there are lots of stupid people in the world, and people
who can understand complex theory are definately in the minority, and
as such they are highly respected people who will be in high demand
and found in well paying jobs or self employment. Stupid people are
mostly unemployed, or do low paid menial work or are just
unemployable, and fortunately they dont fly planes.

"terry" wrote at the end of a useless discussion with MX...

... Stupid people are mostly unemployed, or do low
paid menial work, or are just unemployable, and
fortunately they don't fly planes.


See,... there you go. You got yourself mad and dizzy at the same time.
That's the MX dance. So sad to see so many victims.

Best advice:
Don't mud wrestle with a pig. You get all dirty,... and the pig really likes
it.

On Jun 1, 2:16*pm, "Mike Isaksen" wrote:
"terry" wrote at the end of a useless discussion with MX...



*... Stupid people are mostly unemployed, or do low
*paid menial work, or are just unemployable, and
*fortunately they don't fly planes.

See,... there you go. You got yourself mad and dizzy at the same time.
That's the MX dance. So sad to see so many victims.

Best advice:
Don't mud wrestle with a pig. You get all dirty,... and the pig really likes
it.
I am not mad at all Mike, nor do I consider myself a victim. Its
just a personal challenge I have set myself to see if it is possible
to get Mx to admit that he is wrong. A bit of an experiment if you
like. I find him an interesting character and have changed my mind
about him a couple of times. I was orignially one of those who
thought he was being hard done by on this group. For the record I
dont think Mxs is a troll at all, I think he has a genuine interest in
aviation, and I would be more than happy to assist him in his
endeavours to learn more, if only he wasnt , to use his own word,
refractory to reason, and would show at least a modicom of common
manners to those who try to help him. I stand by my comments about
stupid people , but notice I didnt actually call Mxs a stupid person,
I left that for him to ponder himself.
Terry
PPL

terry writes:

Yes Anthony there are lots of stupid people in the world, and people
who can understand complex theory are definately in the minority, and
as such they are highly respected people who will be in high demand
and found in well paying jobs or self employment.

You're two-thirds correct. While intelligence or acquired skills do generally
correlate well with material success, they are hardly a guarantee. There are
many stupid and incompetent people occupying highly-paid jobs, and there are
many competent and intelligent people who cannot find jobs.

If the correlation were complete, someone like Stephen Hawking, a respected
and competent scientist, would be making far more than someone like Carly
Fiorina, who was paid $45 million as reward for being fired and nearly driving
HP into bankruptcy.

Stupid people are
mostly unemployed, or do low paid menial work or are just
unemployable, and fortunately they dont fly planes.

There's a threshold of intelligence required to fly an airplane, but it's not
as high as many pilots like to believe.

terry writes:

I dont doubt you analysed it Anthony, but you still havent seen, or
aren't willing to admit , that you had it all wrong. Now what has the
SOURCE of the air pressure got to do with the discussion?

A great deal. Without gravity, air pressure would be zero, and volume would
be infinite.

On Jun 1, 5:37 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
terry writes:
I dont doubt you analysed it Anthony, but you still havent seen, or
aren't willing to admit , that you had it all wrong. Now what has the
SOURCE of the air pressure got to do with the discussion?

A great deal. Without gravity, air pressure would be zero, and volume would
be infinite.

Well, no. The gas 'laws' are approximations and fail to be predictive
except within certain ranges, just as Newtonian physics are valid only
in certain ranges..

On Jun 1, 7:37*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
terry writes:
I dont doubt you analysed it Anthony, *but you still havent seen, or
aren't willing to admit , that you had it all wrong. *Now what has the
SOURCE of the air pressure got to do with the discussion?

A great deal. *Without gravity, air pressure would be zero, and volume would
be infinite.

Slithering away again Anthony, what was the real challenge put to
you?

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

terry writes:

Yes Anthony there are lots of stupid people in the world, and people
who can understand complex theory are definately in the minority, and
as such they are highly respected people who will be in high demand
and found in well paying jobs or self employment.

You're two-thirds correct. While intelligence or acquired skills do
generally correlate well with material success, they are hardly a
guarantee. There are many stupid and incompetent people occupying
highly-paid jobs, and there are many competent and intelligent people
who cannot find jobs.

If the correlation were complete, someone like Stephen Hawking, a
respected and competent scientist, would be making far more than
someone like Carly Fiorina, who was paid $45 million as reward for
being fired and nearly driving HP into bankruptcy.

Stupid people are
mostly unemployed, or do low paid menial work or are just
unemployable, and fortunately they dont fly planes.

There's a threshold of intelligence required to fly an airplane, but
it's not as high as many pilots like to believe.


Anthony, you're just slithering to avoid explaining why you are such a
failure in life.