check brake pressure in pre-landing checklist?

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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Newps wrote:
I have had two brake failures in my 182. I was flying the backcountry
in Idaho once when I lost my left brake, being at a dirt strip without a
way to fix it. So we took off and flew to Cascade where there was a
mechanic. It's not that big a deal.

My biggest concern about doing brake checks in the air, is that I've had
more times where cessna brakes have failed to RELEASE than I've had
them fail to engage. I'd rather land with them failed than land
with them locked.

Now you have to ask your self: how likely is the brakes likely to
have failed after the pretaxi brake check, how likely is pumping
them in the air likely to make things WORSE, and how useful is
the information that they aren't working on landing?

Also true in winter if there is any chance water or slush might have
splashed up on the brakes. The water and slush can freeze at altitude and
the ice can lock the brakes if they are applied at altitude.

On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 00:49:21 -0700, Ray wrote:

I'm reading a book about general aviation safety that I picked up from
the library: "Flight Safety in General Aviation" by R.D. Campbell, 1987.

The book suggests that for planes with hydraulic brake systems you
should always check the brake pressure (by checking the pedal
resistance) as part of the pre-landing checklist. This is not included
in the POH checklist for any of the planes I fly and none of the
instructors I have flown with have every suggested this. But it sounds
like a good idea to me. Does anyone here have a brake check in their
pre-landing checklist?

Even on a retract and a 3000 foot strip I don't need brakes to land.

OTOH I have had the parking brake freeze and had to land (arrive) hard
enough to get them turning.

Do I check them? Yes, then I put my feet down where I'm not likely to
accidentally touch them accidentally.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


- Ray

On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:47:59 -0400, Roger
wrote:


Even on a retract and a 3000 foot strip I don't need brakes to land.

Glad somebody wrote what I was thinking. Took primary lessons in a
conventional gear plane with mucked-up mechanical brakes-any
questions?

OTOH I have had the parking brake freeze and had to land (arrive) hard
enough to get them turning.

BTDT, have had to dolly a couple onto the ramp where the arrival
wasn't sufficient "to get them turning".

Do I check them? Yes, then I put my feet down where I'm not likely to
accidentally touch them accidentally.

Have always checked 'em on roll-out prior to getting near somewhere
(like a turn-off or a ramp) where I might get stupid and need them.

TC

wrote

BTDT, have had to dolly a couple onto the ramp where the arrival
wasn't sufficient "to get them turning".

Umm, brings a new meaning to "flat spotted" doesn't it?
--
Jim in NC

I always checked the brakes on short final, saw my boss run off the runway
with an arc burn through one brake line, he didn't check the brakes.

"Roger" wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 00:49:21 -0700, Ray wrote:

I'm reading a book about general aviation safety that I picked up from
the library: "Flight Safety in General Aviation" by R.D. Campbell, 1987.

The book suggests that for planes with hydraulic brake systems you
should always check the brake pressure (by checking the pedal
resistance) as part of the pre-landing checklist. This is not included
in the POH checklist for any of the planes I fly and none of the
instructors I have flown with have every suggested this. But it sounds
like a good idea to me. Does anyone here have a brake check in their
pre-landing checklist?

Even on a retract and a 3000 foot strip I don't need brakes to land.

OTOH I have had the parking brake freeze and had to land (arrive) hard
enough to get them turning.

Do I check them? Yes, then I put my feet down where I'm not likely to
accidentally touch them accidentally.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


- Ray