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The first roll ever in a non aerobat 150
The subject is obviously a joke.
Before the alarmists continue on about over stressing the plane for the next pilot, how many unexplained structural failures (or fatigue failures) do you find in the accident database for 150s? Is this the first you ever heard of someone doing mild acro in a 150/2? I would be willing to bet that that many seasoned acro nuts here have performed a maneuver not necessary for normal operation in a non-aerobatic airplane. (maybe it was just a steep wingover) Sure, it isn't smart, but unfortunately it is quite a common characteristic of otherwise reasonably smart pilots. Leave it at, it's dumb and you might get yourself killed. Of course, plenty of people get themselves killed in acro rated airplanes. Mike |
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I do know one thing, I highly disagree with students being allowed to
conduct stall training on solo flights in the C-150/C-152 his aircraft is spin-happy. pittss1c wrote: The subject is obviously a joke. Before the alarmists continue on about over stressing the plane for the next pilot, how many unexplained structural failures (or fatigue failures) do you find in the accident database for 150s? Is this the first you ever heard of someone doing mild acro in a 150/2? I would be willing to bet that that many seasoned acro nuts here have performed a maneuver not necessary for normal operation in a non-aerobatic airplane. (maybe it was just a steep wingover) Sure, it isn't smart, but unfortunately it is quite a common characteristic of otherwise reasonably smart pilots. Leave it at, it's dumb and you might get yourself killed. Of course, plenty of people get themselves killed in acro rated airplanes. Mike |
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samcapt wrote:
I do know one thing, I highly disagree with students being allowed to conduct stall training on solo flights in the C-150/C-152 Why? (asks curious student) |
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"Kizito" wrote in message ... samcapt wrote: I do know one thing, I highly disagree with students being allowed to conduct stall training on solo flights in the C-150/C-152 Why? (asks curious student) The 150 and 152, including the Bat, won't spin at stall unless pro spin controls are applied and held. You can get a wing drop if your out of rig, or if power on you're not holding a centered ball, which is easily recoverable, but without that yaw moment supplied by full rudder, and a full stall held with back elevator, the airplane at stall is completely normal. Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Commercial Pilot; CFI; Retired dhenriquestrashatearthlinktrashdotnet (take out the trash :-) |
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I am not sure I understand your answer. Is this reluctance to spin at stall
dangerous in its own right or is it because it doesn't prepare you for the behaviour of other aircraft? I am learning on the 152 (not yet soloed) and so far have had one session of stall training but not with spining. What would be a good plane to do stall training in on a solo fight? Or is such activity not a good idea in general? Regards, Kizito |
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Any airplane built in the normal/utility category will need pro spin
controls applied at stall to enter a spin. The 150 or 152 should be the perfect airplane for you to practice stalls in solo (after you have been thoroughly checked out by a competent instructor on stall recoveries of course) Normal pre-solo stall training should prepare you for practicing stalls solo. If you have had this training, solo stalls should be no issue for you. I don't however advocate you attempting stalls in ANY airplane if you haven't had proper training in recovery. Dudley Henriques "Kizito" wrote in message ... I am not sure I understand your answer. Is this reluctance to spin at stall dangerous in its own right or is it because it doesn't prepare you for the behaviour of other aircraft? I am learning on the 152 (not yet soloed) and so far have had one session of stall training but not with spining. What would be a good plane to do stall training in on a solo fight? Or is such activity not a good idea in general? Regards, Kizito |
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