I just have to get it off my chest.

This is just an open thought not directed at anyone in particular.


Regarding YENC:

The only interpretation provided to newbies, is to use a simple reader
like OE. Unless you know the history of yenc software, newbies can't
figure out why an answer like that is provided and the tempers erupt.

You can plonk people to death, but what's the point? If we were at an air
show and I mentioned that I use yenc, would you stop talking to me or I
you? Probably not, that would be rude, so why persist with that type
behavior on this newsgroup?

This group has an aversion to yenc for only one noticeable reason, the
rules here. Yenc has come a long way since its inception. If you take
time to learn it, you might change your mind about it.

It's assumed plonking posters who use yenc will be shamed into leaving or
at least stop any future yenc posts.

I was asked not to post here a long time ago because of the "rules".

That's ok, I won't post anything on this group and subsequently the group
has been denied what I have to share. I don't see the logic in it, but
that's the way this group runs itself. This group only denies themselves
because of an outdated rule.

Every group I use that allows binary posting doesn't seem to have a
problem with yenc. Actually they could care less and personally I have
not had any trouble viewing others yenc postings. What this group needs
is a rule to update its rules which brings me to this point:

I don't understand why an unmoderated group insists on enforcing rules
over a public platform like the Internet. Unless someone is breaking laws
like posting child porn, the ability to enforce a rule like this is non-
existent. It actually invites trouble.

When a new user comes along, where do they go for the list of rules? The
list of do's and do not's appear nowhere when I visit here.

I say it's time to vote again. I say an open vote on a public system like
yahoo should resolve this issue once and for all.

For some reason I have a problem looking at GIF and BMP files only in a
newsgroup. Should that reason alone be reason enough that I ask everyone
not to use those formats?

Eventually I'll find out what the problem is with my readers.

The point here is that what problem "I" have should not be yours which is
what oldtimers here don't understand. If all you see is gibberish, it
isn't decoding. If the software isn't decoding it either has a problem or
doesn't recognize the format.

There does come a point when to stay current, you MUST upgrade.

Clem, upgrade to what? Why should I upgrade (or install unwanted programmes)
when all you need to do is resize your pictures before you post them. The
best pictures on this NG come from Glenn (IMO) and we don't have to install
any upgraded software to view his images, so what is so special about yours?
If you can't take his lead, maybe you are the loser and we have missed
nothing....



"Clem" wrote in message
. 97.136...
This is just an open thought not directed at anyone in particular.


Regarding YENC:


There does come a point when to stay current, you MUST upgrade.

Agreed...

"russell" wrote in message
...
Clem, upgrade to what? Why should I upgrade (or install unwanted
programmes) when all you need to do is resize your pictures before you
post them. The best pictures on this NG come from Glenn (IMO) and we don't
have to install any upgraded software to view his images, so what is so
special about yours? If you can't take his lead, maybe you are the loser
and we have missed nothing....



"Clem" wrote in message
. 97.136...
This is just an open thought not directed at anyone in particular.


Regarding YENC:


There does come a point when to stay current, you MUST upgrade.

"russell" wrote in
:

Clem, upgrade to what? Why should I upgrade (or install unwanted
programmes) when all you need to do is resize your pictures before you
post them. The best pictures on this NG come from Glenn (IMO) and we
don't have to install any upgraded software to view his images, so
what is so special about yours? If you can't take his lead, maybe you
are the loser and we have missed nothing....



"Clem" wrote in message
. 97.136...
This is just an open thought not directed at anyone in particular.


Regarding YENC:


There does come a point when to stay current, you MUST upgrade.




Clem:

I agree with you wholeheartedly. "Upgrade to what?" Just use your web
browser to search for "yenc newsreader" and you will be rewarded with a
long list of free offerings. Why downsize your images when YENC is so easy.

Frank

My solution to YENC posters is just to stick them in the killfile. Stop
trying to dictate what everyone else should use. My solution is if you
insist on YENC I don't want to see your pictures.


"Frank" wrote in message
...
"russell" wrote in
:

Clem, upgrade to what? Why should I upgrade (or install unwanted
programmes) when all you need to do is resize your pictures before you
post them. The best pictures on this NG come from Glenn (IMO) and we
don't have to install any upgraded software to view his images, so
what is so special about yours? If you can't take his lead, maybe you
are the loser and we have missed nothing....



"Clem" wrote in message
. 97.136...
This is just an open thought not directed at anyone in particular.


Regarding YENC:


There does come a point when to stay current, you MUST upgrade.




Clem:

I agree with you wholeheartedly. "Upgrade to what?" Just use your web
browser to search for "yenc newsreader" and you will be rewarded with a
long list of free offerings. Why downsize your images when YENC is so
easy.

Frank

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:42:10 -0400, Woody wrote
(in article ):

My solution to YENC posters is just to stick them in the killfile.

And this affects me... how?

Stop
trying to dictate what everyone else should use.

Not doing that. On the other hand, some people are trying to say how others
must post.

My solution is if you
insist on YENC I don't want to see your pictures.

Sounds like a plan.



"Frank" wrote in message
...
"russell" wrote in
:

Clem, upgrade to what? Why should I upgrade (or install unwanted
programmes) when all you need to do is resize your pictures before you
post them. The best pictures on this NG come from Glenn (IMO) and we
don't have to install any upgraded software to view his images, so
what is so special about yours? If you can't take his lead, maybe you
are the loser and we have missed nothing....



"Clem" wrote in message
. 97.136...
This is just an open thought not directed at anyone in particular.


Regarding YENC:


There does come a point when to stay current, you MUST upgrade.




Clem:

I agree with you wholeheartedly. "Upgrade to what?" Just use your web
browser to search for "yenc newsreader" and you will be rewarded with a
long list of free offerings. Why downsize your images when YENC is so
easy.

Frank

"hielan' laddie" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:42:10 -0400, Woody wrote
(in article ):

My solution to YENC posters is just to stick them in the killfile.

And this affects me... how?

Stop
trying to dictate what everyone else should use.

Not doing that. On the other hand, some people are trying to say how
others
must post.

no, what they are saying is if you want them to view them, don't post in
Yenc.
Are you sure that your not ****y with them because you are not reaching your
target audience ?

Frank wrote:


Just use your web
browser to search for "yenc newsreader" and you will be rewarded with a
long list of free offerings.

I'll tell you what Frank.

Upgrading my older Mac OS and software is NOT AN OPTION.

So if YOU can find a way for me to view YENC images that won't cost me
any money which I do not have I will be eternally grateful.

However it MUST WORK WITH OS 8.6 and my newsreader YA Newswatcher 5.0.1

And I mean it must work with that system...... PERIOD.

I can tell you that after trying for years and listening to advice from
people just like you that noboday and I mean nobody has been able to
come up with a solution for me.

So I go back to my simple attitude..... If your not willing to post
images to this group or any others in a manner that all can see then
obviously you do not wish me to see your pictures and in that case
it is very simple... I CAN'T MISS WHAT I CAN'T SEE.

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 19:23:30 +0100, shiver wrote
(in message ):

So if YOU can find a way for me to view YENC images that won't cost me
any money which I do not have I will be eternally grateful.

However it MUST WORK WITH OS 8.6 and my newsreader YA Newswatcher 5.0.1

yEnc TZ might help. You'll find it at:

http://www.turbozen.com/mac/yenc/

Note that there are three different versions, depending on the mix
of hardware and software, so make sure you grab the right one.

--

shiver wrote in news:080720071223131051%
:

Frank wrote:


Just use your web
browser to search for "yenc newsreader" and you will be rewarded with a
long list of free offerings.

I'll tell you what Frank.

Upgrading my older Mac OS and software is NOT AN OPTION.

So if YOU can find a way for me to view YENC images that won't cost me
any money which I do not have I will be eternally grateful.

However it MUST WORK WITH OS 8.6 and my newsreader YA Newswatcher 5.0.1

And I mean it must work with that system...... PERIOD.

I can tell you that after trying for years and listening to advice from
people just like you that noboday and I mean nobody has been able to
come up with a solution for me.

So I go back to my simple attitude..... If your not willing to post
images to this group or any others in a manner that all can see then
obviously you do not wish me to see your pictures and in that case
it is very simple... I CAN'T MISS WHAT I CAN'T SEE.


XNEWS is free and there are probaly others just go to some site like
download.com