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Old July 21st 04, 02:59 PM
Dr. Bob Lade
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Actually, 45 knots = 51.75 mph, so it looks as if the 415C should be able to
have the SLA classification. That's a good thing, cuz many of the other
"eligible" a/c are tail-draggers. The castored main gear on the Ercoupe
should make a crabbed X-wind landing fairly easy (and necessary since
auto-coordination excludes slipping.)

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"ET" wrote in message
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"Dr. Bob Lade" wrote in
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I meant the Ercoupe 415C, of course g.

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I have heard conflicting reports as to whether the Ercoupe 416C would
be eligible as a LSA or not. Anyone know for sure? I see it listed as
having

a
t/o weight of 1260 lb. under the 1320 lb. in the newly published FAA
rules...

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Looks to me like your in....

Stall speed (clean) 48mph

LSA stall speed 45knots = approx 48.6 mph

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Old July 21st 04, 03:03 PM
dave
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Somewhat on topic, is it possible to change (lower) the gross weight
of a production aircraft? Example a piper clipper pa-16 is of course a
4 seater empty wight usually around 900 lbs, if I removed the back
seat and flew it at 1320 lbs or under (my wife and I together weigh
300 lbs or so)? It would meet all the other criteria vne 120 knots or
less, cruise and max speed 120 kts.

Thanks,
Dave

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LSA stall speed 45knots = approx 48.6 mph


That would be closer to 51.7864910 mph.

Rich "The Devil is in the details" S.

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Old July 21st 04, 03:16 PM
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dave wrote:

Somewhat on topic, is it possible to change (lower) the gross weight
of a production aircraft?


Sure. Recertify it.

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Old July 21st 04, 04:13 PM
ET
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in
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dave wrote:

Somewhat on topic, is it possible to change (lower) the gross weight
of a production aircraft?


Sure. Recertify it.

George Patterson
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assault. In Tennessee, it's evangelism.


NO,

Well, YES, actually, but it will not do any good for Sport Pilot.

The FAA added the following to avoid just such a thing: "Light-sport
aircraft means an aircraft, other than a helicopter or powered-lift that,
since its original certification, has continued to meet the following:"

The words "since it's original certification, has continued" is your
problem. The same for the ercoupe 415 d's that used to be "c's". You
can't take them back to a "c" and fly under sport (and be legal). I
suppose it's unlikely that a ramp check will get you ... but if the ramp
checkers start carrying laptops with N-number databases in them... maybe
you would get caught.

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Old July 21st 04, 05:29 PM
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"Dr. Bob Lade" wrote:

Actually, 45 knots = 51.75 mph, so it looks as if the 415C should be able to
have the SLA classification.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Actually, NOT in the U.S.A.. [Pun intended]


Since 1959, the U.S. has used 6,076.115 feet
as the international standard for a nautical mile,
making 45 knots closer to = 51.78507102 mph.

However, there are other standards for a n.m.
Therefore... YMMV. g


Barnyard - PhD challenged - BOb
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Old July 21st 04, 06:19 PM
G.R. Patterson III
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ET wrote:

The words "since it's original certification, has continued" is your
problem.


Ah, yes. Careless reading on my part.

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Old July 22nd 04, 01:57 AM
Bob Fry
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"Dr. Bob Lade" writes:

The castored main gear on the Ercoupe


Ercoupes don't have castoring (swiveling, turning, rotating) main gear
(legs). They are simply robust enough to take the side forces
generated by a crabbed landing.
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Old July 22nd 04, 03:28 AM
Jim Weir
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AAARGGH...one was enough. Two is too many.

Castoring means you are extracting the oil of the castor bean.

Castering means that something swivels.


Jim



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-"Dr. Bob Lade" writes:
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- The castored main gear on the Ercoupe
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-Ercoupes don't have castoring (swiveling, turning, rotating) main gear
-(legs). They are simply robust enough to take the side forces
-generated by a crabbed landing.

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Old July 22nd 04, 06:01 AM
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On 21 Jul 2004 17:57:21 -0700, Bob Fry
wrote:

"Dr. Bob Lade" writes:

The castored main gear on the Ercoupe


Ercoupes don't have castoring (swiveling, turning, rotating) main gear
(legs). They are simply robust enough to take the side forces
generated by a crabbed landing.


This is not true. The main gear does rotate to compensate for crabbed
landings.

z
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Old July 22nd 04, 04:38 PM
ET
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Barnyard BOb - wrote in
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"Dr. Bob Lade" wrote:

Actually, 45 knots = 51.75 mph, so it looks as if the 415C should be
able to have the SLA classification.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Actually, NOT in the U.S.A.. [Pun intended]


Since 1959, the U.S. has used 6,076.115 feet
as the international standard for a nautical mile,
making 45 knots closer to = 51.78507102 mph.

However, there are other standards for a n.m.
Therefore... YMMV. g


Barnyard - PhD challenged - BOb



sorry, my first calculation was Knots with tax (grin). Or maybe I'm just
not tying them right.

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completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams
 




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