Kerry is hiding his records

"David Stinson" wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
....and if my guess is right, there's also something in those records
that would require he step down as a Senator also.

If only it were so...
The American people have already shown that Demoncrat
pols can get away literally with treason and murder.
Clinton proved that. We will demand nothing and do nothing.
Let a Republican fart in church and the media
will eat him and his children, raw. Let a Demoncrat
sell his nation's military secrets to China for
blood money, and we'll yawn and watch re-runs of "Oprah."

Not all of us........... :-)
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired

"Justin" wrote in message
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"David Stinson" wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
....and if my guess is right, there's also something in those
records
that would require he step down as a Senator also.

If only it were so...
The American people have already shown that Demoncrat
pols can get away literally with treason and murder.
Clinton proved that. We will demand nothing and do nothing.
Let a Republican fart in church and the media
will eat him and his children, raw. Let a Demoncrat
sell his nation's military secrets to China for
blood money, and we'll yawn and watch re-runs of "Oprah."



This is the reason why I always get crazy and tell people/friends
that... in
this world, some people deserves/needs to die or be dead. And I get
accused
of a homocidal maniac.

In the interest of clarity, I must disassociate myself from the
direction this dialog is going and make it known that I personally would
NOT, and I restate again; would NOT wish anyone dead for political
reasons. This is NOT the way we settle things in the United
States......at least I don't anyway!
I'll now leave you more "violent types" to the rest of this thread to do
with as you wish.
Thank you
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired

"Muff" wrote in message
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Kerry is hiding the fact that he did not meet his reserve commitment
by
attending weekends and two week stints during the summer. He was awol
just
like they accused Bush of. Only differance is that Bush filled all his
squares and was honorably discharged.

Muff
A real combat vet

Actually it could be much worse than this. If Kerry was still in his
reserve commitment period at the time he went to North Vietnam, and
evidence seems to indicate that he was, he was still an officer in the
United States Navy. The United States was at war. If this situation
shows up in Kerry's concealed records, he is not only disqualified from
a run for the office of President, but if retroactively prosecuted and
found guilty, I believe he could even be expelled from the Senate.
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in
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Actually it could be much worse than this. If Kerry was still in his
reserve commitment period at the time he went to North Vietnam, and
evidence seems to indicate that he was, he was still an officer in the
United States Navy. The United States was at war. If this situation
shows up in Kerry's concealed records, he is not only disqualified from
a run for the office of President, but if retroactively prosecuted and
found guilty, I believe he could even be expelled from the Senate.

Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired



Yes,if we could get Congress to impeach Kerry,very doubtful they'd do it.
I doubt if we could get the Navy to prosecute him for treason.There's no
statute of limitations on that,is there?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in
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Actually it could be much worse than this. If Kerry was still in his
reserve commitment period at the time he went to North Vietnam, and
evidence seems to indicate that he was, he was still an officer in
the
United States Navy. The United States was at war. If this situation
shows up in Kerry's concealed records, he is not only disqualified
from
a run for the office of President, but if retroactively prosecuted
and
found guilty, I believe he could even be expelled from the Senate.

Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired



Yes,if we could get Congress to impeach Kerry,very doubtful they'd do
it.
I doubt if we could get the Navy to prosecute him for treason.There's
no
statute of limitations on that,is there?

I'm not an expert on these matters but I don't believe there is a
statute of limitations on such a charge. The rub in all this is that the
answer is already known to a select few, but the information legally
can't be released to the public or more importantly acted upon legally
unless Kerry signs the request form that releases the records as public
domain.
Unless he is forced to sign that form by a concentrated media effort
directed specifically at this issue, Kerry can very well refuse to
release these records indefinitely and that is EXACTLY what he intends
to do.
What constitutes a terrible scenario is if Kerry wins the Presidency;
then something is done afterward that alters the law to allow the
release of his records. If this happens after the election, the result
could be catastrophic for the nation!
Of course this is just my humble read on all this, and if there's one
damn thing I'm glad I'm NEVER going to be in this life, it's a GD
lawyer!!!
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired

Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired

Dudley commented:
I'm not an expert on these matters but I don't believe there is a
statute of limitations on such a charge.

For the legal people...Can a President pardon himself? Ford got Nixon off the
hook, but could Nixon have pardoned himself before he resigned? Could Kerry
pardon himself before anything came out?

Rick

"OXMORON1" wrote in message
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Dudley commented:
I'm not an expert on these matters but I don't believe there is a
statute of limitations on such a charge.

For the legal people...Can a President pardon himself? Ford got Nixon
off the
hook, but could Nixon have pardoned himself before he resigned? Could
Kerry
pardon himself before anything came out?

Rick

I don't think he could get away with that. The country would go nuts!
But the harm to the country would be deep and permanent if a traitor was
elected to the Presidency and afterward had to be removed from office.
It would split the country wide open. The wounds would never heal.
If this guy's records have to be seen; they'll have to be seen BEFORE
the election, and if those records contain what many think they contain.
Kerry will fight like hell to keep them secret by not signing that damn
release form.
The Swifties could do it if they tried hard enough in public, but that's
the only way I can think of to force that issue.
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired

IBM wrote:

Now that would be interesting.
Ought not simple arithmetic be able to determine whether or not his
commitment was up at the time in question?

Not all that simple, unless he had resigned his commission or had recelved his
discharge he was still a reserve officer.
So you need to see the records to find out if either had happened.

Rick Clark

"OXMORON1" wrote in message
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IBM wrote:

Now that would be interesting.
Ought not simple arithmetic be able to determine whether or not his
commitment was up at the time in question?

Not all that simple, unless he had resigned his commission or had recelved
his
discharge he was still a reserve officer.
So you need to see the records to find out if either had happened.

Actually, his own website is a bit shady on this topic. The service timeline
shows that he requested releases from active duty on 1 March 1970 and was
released from *active* duty the following month, and that is where it ends
( http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_..._timeline.html ), with no
mention of subsequent reserve service. But in the "records" section of the
site it shows that his request for discharge from the USNR was not accepted
and approved until1978 (
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilse...al_Reserve.pdf )
.. So up front they leave one with the impression he was out free-and-clear
in 1970, but that most assuredly was not the case. There is no question that
he was still a USNR officer when he was pulling his VVAW/Winter Soldier
Investigation stunts in 1971.

Brooks


Rick Clark

On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:45:54 -0700, Willcox
wrote:

In article . net,
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"RalphNader 2004" wrote in message
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Why does Kerry continue to hide his military records and refuse to sign a
SF 180?

Because there's something in those records that would diminish his chances
of becoming president if it became known.

1977 - Jimmy Carter signs widesweeping pardon for "violations of the
Military Selective Service Act alleged to have occurred between August
4, 1964 and March 28, 1973".
http://www.archives.gov/federal_regi...cutive_order/1
1967.html

1978 - John Kerry flinally gets an honorable discharge:
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/j...isnavresrv.pdf

No need to go to findlaw. It is right there on the Kerry site along
with the more official letter...
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilse...al_Reserve.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilse...om_Reserve.pdf