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Flew my first SID
After 21 years of being instrument rated, I flew my first SID this week.
Departing KPBI on Thursday afternoon, bound for the first fix, LBV (LaBelle VOR). Normally, I file NO SIDS OR STARS in the remarks section. This time I forgot and they gave it to me. |
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Flew my first SID
In article john smith wrote:
Normally, I file NO SIDS OR STARS in the remarks section. Why? What advantage do you think you're getting by doing this? |
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Flew my first SID
Why? What advantage do you think you're getting by doing this?
If you don't accept a SID or STAR, they have to give you your clearance orally over the freq. That means you don't have to find it in the book and read it out of the book. You can just fly it (perhaps with some notes). |
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Flew my first SID
"Roy Smith" wrote in message ...
In article john smith wrote: Normally, I file NO SIDS OR STARS in the remarks section. Why? What advantage do you think you're getting by doing this? Fair question, Roy. What's not to like about having in your hands a published graphical diagram and printed text to supplement the verbal clearance? |
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Flew my first SID
Normally, I file NO SIDS OR STARS in the remarks section. This time I
forgot and they gave it to me. Don't they give it to you anyway, just in long form? Jose -- Nothing takes longer than a shortcut. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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Flew my first SID
In a previous article, "Doug" said:
Why? What advantage do you think you're getting by doing this? If you don't accept a SID or STAR, they have to give you your clearance orally over the freq. That means you don't have to find it in the book and read it out of the book. You can just fly it (perhaps with some notes). Which means you don't have a diagram of it, and you have do a lot more writing, with the added possibility of error. Sorry, I'm not seeing the advantage here. -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ It's better to be on the ground wishing you were flying, than up there wishing you were on the ground. |
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Flew my first SID
If you file No SIDS/No STARS you'll get the same route, they
will just read you a full route clearance. Saying No SIDS/No STARS just means you don't have the chart or text description. -- James H. Macklin ATP,CFI,A&P -- The people think the Constitution protects their rights; But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome. some support http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties. "john smith" wrote in message ... | After 21 years of being instrument rated, I flew my first SID this week. | Departing KPBI on Thursday afternoon, bound for the first fix, LBV | (LaBelle VOR). | Normally, I file NO SIDS OR STARS in the remarks section. This time I | forgot and they gave it to me. |
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Flew my first SID
Normally, I file NO SIDS OR STARS in the remarks section.
Why? What advantage do you think you're getting by doing this? Fair question, Roy. What's not to like about having in your hands a published graphical diagram and printed text to supplement the verbal clearance? There is no graphic for the procedure. There are five text instructions, depending on what type of hardware you are flying and what runway you are assigned. I read the wrong instruction based on the departure runway I was given, missed the hardware note and was corrected on my switch to departure. By adding the NO SIDS OR STARS remark, I am usually given a more simple, expedited departure and only fly radar vectors and altitude assignments. (that should have been 26 years, not 21) |
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Flew my first SID
john smith wrote:
After 21 years of being instrument rated, I flew my first SID this week. Departing KPBI on Thursday afternoon, bound for the first fix, LBV (LaBelle VOR). Normally, I file NO SIDS OR STARS in the remarks section. This time I forgot and they gave it to me. I generally file them if available and if I can remember the DUAT procedure to enter them. I kind of like being able to have some idea what to expect on departure and arrival. Matt |
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Flew my first SID
Most SIDs are so simple they don't seem worth writing down. Many of
them are just heading/altitude that gets reassigned as soon as the gear enters the wells anyway. -Robert |
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