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Commerical rating question about hours req.
Hey guys, quick question about the commercial (VFR) rating and the
hours required for it. To get your commercial rating you need: 20 hours of DUAL training to include.... 10 hours of DUAL complex time 1 two hour DUAL, DAY, VFR, 100 Nm (straight line distance) cross country 1 two hour DUAL, NIGHT, VFR, 100 Nm (straight line distance) cross country 10 hours DUAL Instrument 250 hours of total time 100 hours pilot in command 50 hours cross country PIC 10 hours of solo to include.... 1 300 Nm cross country with 3 full stop landings, one of which is 250 Nm straight line distance from the point of departure. 5 hours of NIGHT SOLO, and in those five : 10 take offs and landings at NIGHT SOLO, at an airport with an operating control tower. Now my questions is: I got a couple of hours (4) of simulated instrument and 2 dual cross country's of 100nm logged that prepared me for my PP, do those hours qualify for the rating or do I have to do them over again? Thanks! -Nik |
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Commerical rating question about hours req.
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Now my questions is: I got a couple of hours (4) of simulated instrument and 2 dual cross country's of 100nm logged that prepared me for my PP, do those hours qualify for the rating or do I have to do them over again? It counts. I used my instrument rating to provide the instrument hours for the commercial license. I had to get the 10 hours of dual for the commercial license specifically, but I used those 10 hours to kill more than one requirement at the same time, ie, commercial maneuvers and complex training at the same time, etc. No point in spending more than you have to... -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com |
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Commerical rating question about hours req.
Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Nik wrote: Now my questions is: I got a couple of hours (4) of simulated instrument and 2 dual cross country's of 100nm logged that prepared me for my PP, do those hours qualify for the rating or do I have to do them over again? It counts. I used my instrument rating to provide the instrument hours for the commercial license. I had to get the 10 hours of dual for the commercial license specifically, but I used those 10 hours to kill more than one requirement at the same time, ie, commercial maneuvers and complex training at the same time, etc. I didn't have the long dual cross country flights when I got my private in 1978. Is this a new requirement? I don't recall seeing it in the FARs, but I haven't checked the PP requirements since ... oh, about 1978. :-) Matt |
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Commerical rating question about hours req.
The instrument training required for a PP is control and
maneuvering from a CFI. The Commercial requires instrument instruction from a CFII. 61.109 (3) 3 hours of flight training in a single-engine airplane on the control and maneuvering of an airplane solely by reference to instruments, including straight and level flight, constant airspeed climbs and descents, turns to a heading, recovery from unusual flight attitudes, radio communications, and the use of navigation systems/facilities and radar services appropriate to instrument flight; while 61.129 (i) 10 hours of instrument training of which at least 5 hours must be in a single-engine airplane; So you need a CFII for all 10 hours of the commercial. If your time was logged so as to comply with 61.129, by an authorized instructor (instrument instruction requires the II). -- James H. Macklin ATP,CFI,A&P "Nik" wrote in message ups.com... | Hey guys, quick question about the commercial (VFR) rating and the | hours required for it. | To get your commercial rating you need: | | 20 hours of DUAL training to include.... | | 10 hours of DUAL complex time | 1 two hour DUAL, DAY, VFR, 100 Nm (straight line distance) cross | country | 1 two hour DUAL, NIGHT, VFR, 100 Nm (straight line distance) cross | country | 10 hours DUAL Instrument | 250 hours of total time | 100 hours pilot in command | | 50 hours cross country PIC | | 10 hours of solo to include.... | | 1 300 Nm cross country with 3 full stop landings, one of which is 250 | Nm straight line distance from the point of departure. | 5 hours of NIGHT SOLO, and in those five : | 10 take offs and landings at NIGHT SOLO, at an airport with an | operating control tower. | | Now my questions is: I got a couple of hours (4) of simulated | instrument and 2 dual cross country's of 100nm logged that prepared me | for my PP, do those hours qualify for the rating or do I have to do | them over again? | | Thanks! | -Nik | |
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Commerical rating question about hours req.
Thanks for the reply guys!
So since I received my 3 hours from a CFII, it DOES COUNT, right? Thanks! -Nik Jim Macklin wrote: The instrument training required for a PP is control and maneuvering from a CFI. The Commercial requires instrument instruction from a CFII. 61.109 (3) 3 hours of flight training in a single-engine airplane on the control and maneuvering of an airplane solely by reference to instruments, including straight and level flight, constant airspeed climbs and descents, turns to a heading, recovery from unusual flight attitudes, radio communications, and the use of navigation systems/facilities and radar services appropriate to instrument flight; while 61.129 (i) 10 hours of instrument training of which at least 5 hours must be in a single-engine airplane; So you need a CFII for all 10 hours of the commercial. If your time was logged so as to comply with 61.129, by an authorized instructor (instrument instruction requires the II). -- James H. Macklin ATP,CFI,A&P "Nik" wrote in message ups.com... | Hey guys, quick question about the commercial (VFR) rating and the | hours required for it. | To get your commercial rating you need: | | 20 hours of DUAL training to include.... | | 10 hours of DUAL complex time | 1 two hour DUAL, DAY, VFR, 100 Nm (straight line distance) cross | country | 1 two hour DUAL, NIGHT, VFR, 100 Nm (straight line distance) cross | country | 10 hours DUAL Instrument | 250 hours of total time | 100 hours pilot in command | | 50 hours cross country PIC | | 10 hours of solo to include.... | | 1 300 Nm cross country with 3 full stop landings, one of which is 250 | Nm straight line distance from the point of departure. | 5 hours of NIGHT SOLO, and in those five : | 10 take offs and landings at NIGHT SOLO, at an airport with an | operating control tower. | | Now my questions is: I got a couple of hours (4) of simulated | instrument and 2 dual cross country's of 100nm logged that prepared me | for my PP, do those hours qualify for the rating or do I have to do | them over again? | | Thanks! | -Nik | |
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Commerical rating question about hours req.
It depends on what the CFII wrote in the book and how it was
phrased. "Nik" wrote in message oups.com... | Thanks for the reply guys! | So since I received my 3 hours from a CFII, it DOES COUNT, right? | | | Thanks! | -Nik | Jim Macklin wrote: | The instrument training required for a PP is control and | maneuvering from a CFI. The Commercial requires instrument | instruction from a CFII. | | 61.109 | | (3) 3 hours of flight training in a single-engine airplane | on the control and maneuvering of an airplane solely by | reference to instruments, including straight and level | flight, constant airspeed climbs and descents, turns to a | heading, recovery from unusual flight attitudes, radio | communications, and the use of navigation systems/facilities | and radar services appropriate to instrument flight; | | | | while | | 61.129 | | (i) 10 hours of instrument training of which at least 5 | hours must be in a single-engine airplane; | | | | So you need a CFII for all 10 hours of the commercial. If | your time was logged so as to comply with 61.129, by an | authorized instructor (instrument instruction requires the | II). | | | | | -- | James H. Macklin | ATP,CFI,A&P | | | "Nik" wrote in message | ups.com... | | Hey guys, quick question about the commercial (VFR) rating | and the | | hours required for it. | | To get your commercial rating you need: | | | | 20 hours of DUAL training to include.... | | | | 10 hours of DUAL complex time | | 1 two hour DUAL, DAY, VFR, 100 Nm (straight line distance) | cross | | country | | 1 two hour DUAL, NIGHT, VFR, 100 Nm (straight line | distance) cross | | country | | 10 hours DUAL Instrument | | 250 hours of total time | | 100 hours pilot in command | | | | 50 hours cross country PIC | | | | 10 hours of solo to include.... | | | | 1 300 Nm cross country with 3 full stop landings, one of | which is 250 | | Nm straight line distance from the point of departure. | | 5 hours of NIGHT SOLO, and in those five : | | 10 take offs and landings at NIGHT SOLO, at an airport | with an | | operating control tower. | | | | Now my questions is: I got a couple of hours (4) of | simulated | | instrument and 2 dual cross country's of 100nm logged that | prepared me | | for my PP, do those hours qualify for the rating or do I | have to do | | them over again? | | | | Thanks! | | -Nik | | | |
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