Don't point RPGs at US soldiers!

From: Nuk


I'd say he was planning hit a squad of Marines, or a Humvee or APC or
similar, but they saw him first and he found himself staring down the
barrels of a few US Marines...

Nah, you can see the bullets kick up clouds of dust in the street from both the
chest and head shots. Whomever got him plainly shot him from a roof top, i.e.,
it was probably a sniper watching over a patrol....not a patroller.

As I mentioned before, I think the Marine snipers are using bolt actions,
however, I have seen some pics of US Army snipers carrying tricked up M-14
sniper variants. I am thinking this guy was had by an Army sniper because of
the quick follow-up shot. Consequently, I also doubt this video is from the
Fallujah action, since it was the Marines laying siege in Fallujah.

I'm still trying to figure out why he was in the middle of a street,
no cover, no camo... stupid, stupid, stupid...

It's a "jihad" for Allah. Rationality plays little part.

One wonders just exactly what the insurgents even think they are trying to
accomplish. What will surely result if they gain supremacy is chaos, civil war,
and the weakening of Iraq making it a tempting invasion target for the likes of
Iran. So, if they think they are fighting for the good of Iraq, they are merely
deluding themselves.
Dave

Dav1936531 wrote:
It's a "jihad" for Allah. Rationality plays little part.



I've heard that before, but that doesn't explain why his buddies weren't
fighting over the opportunity to join him in Paradise. I am reminded of when
Arafat was holed up in his office whining about how he wanted to become a martyr
when all that was required was for him to step out into the hall brandishing a
pistol. These brave fellows sure talk the talk; I just don't see that many
walking the walk.

And as this courageous freedom fighter just demonstrated, the Law of Natural
Selection plays no favorites.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN


http://www.mortimerschnerd.com

Looks like that guy gets one through the chest and
a quick follow-up head shot.
...
Further, the sniper may have been able to lure the dead guy's
compatriots out into the street had he held off firing the follow
up kill shot to the head.

Isn't it illegal to kill the wounded, according to the Geneva
Conventions?

I'm not even convinced it was a sniper shot. . .looked like automatic
weapons fire to me. . repeated shooting and I picked out 2, maybe 3 tracer
rounds. Do we even know where it was taken (I don't speak the language of
the news reporter!).. might it have been Israel rather than Iraq?

--
Regards
Drewe
"Better the pride that resides
In a citizen of the world
Than the pride that divides
When a colourful rag is unfurled"

"Tamas Feher" wrote in news:caul4b$gt5$1
@proxy.interware.hu:

Isn't it illegal to kill the wounded, according to the Geneva
Conventions?


If they'd watched him for 20-30 seconds before slotting him then maybe
I'd agree. . that was a two second burst of gunfore (possibly from two
different directions looking at repeatedly at the video - the chest shot
seems to come from on high and the second burst from another direction
and more or less at the same level). So to accuse them of "killing the
wounded" is just being mischevious isn't it? Besides, after shot one he
sat on his arse and there was still an RPG at his side. So he was still
technically a combatant. If you're going to contend that that 2-3 seconds
between shot one and the others was enough to let the troops decide he
was wounded and no longer a threat I'd have to contend that you work in
slo-time, Matrix style and that he probably would have had time to whip
up a white flag and start waving it in your little compressed time
world. No? Don't be so ****ing specious then.

--
Regards
Drewe
"Better the pride that resides
In a citizen of the world
Than the pride that divides
When a colourful rag is unfurled"

"Dav1936531" wrote in message
...

Further, the sniper may have been able to lure the dead guy's compatriots
out
into the street had he held off firing the follow up kill shot to the
head.
Just wound the guy on the first shot and wait for his buddies to come out
and
"rescue" him.......and then drill them all too. Make a pile of them in the
street......however, the insurgent fighters may be "on" to that tactic
already.
Dave

I seriously doubt that the bad guys care enough about such things to even
bother "rescuing" one of their own.

Drewe Manton wrote:
: I'm not even convinced it was a sniper shot. . .looked like automatic
: weapons fire to me. . repeated shooting and I picked out 2, maybe 3
: tracer rounds.

I totally concur with that. The tracer rounds were a dead (pun
intended) giveaway.

: Do we even know where it was taken (I don't speak the
: language of the news reporter!).. might it have been Israel rather
: than Iraq?

Don't know about the actual camera team, but the footage as seen in this
clip is from a TV channel here in Spain called "Tele Cinco." I oughta
know, because I watch it daily and was rather stunned by this clip when
I saw it for the first time the other day. I wonder if the American
media broadcast this in the states?

As for what the commentator is saying, he sort of got cut off in mid
sentence. He says: "The death live (as your seeing it) was transformed
there as usual what occurs daily. This occured in a suburb of Bhagdad."
Sorry about the translation, but there was no way to do it
word-for-word.

Later.

J.

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On 18 Jun 2004 12:08:16 GMT, Drewe Manton
wrote:

"Tamas Feher" wrote in news:caul4b$gt5$1
:

Isn't it illegal to kill the wounded, according to the Geneva
Conventions?


If they'd watched him for 20-30 seconds before slotting him then maybe
I'd agree. . that was a two second burst of gunfore (possibly from two
different directions looking at repeatedly at the video - the chest shot
seems to come from on high and the second burst from another direction
and more or less at the same level). So to accuse them of "killing the
wounded" is just being mischevious isn't it?

He's not known for his brainpower.

Nuk wrote in message . ..
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 01:00:48 +0000 (UTC), Andrew
wrote:

http://w3.kill-9.com/rpg-man.mpg


"Hey Abdul, take my RPG and go shoot those US troops over yonder..."
"...but Ahmed, don't I need body armour or some cover to hide behind?"
"don't be silly, you know the US can't shoot for ****!"

Holy crap. Interesting, BTW, to note how un-Hollywood his demise
is...no flying parts, no sprays of blood.

"B2431" wrote in message
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From: Andrew
Date: 6/17/2004 8:00 PM Central Daylight Time
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http://w3.kill-9.com/rpg-man.mpg

I like it, but how do I save it?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
Dan, if you are using Win XP and IE, simply go back to the post by ME,
right click on the link and save target as whatever and wherever you want.

T3