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Dale wrote: I've opened windows in 150/152/172/182 and 206 and never noticed any roll or need for any aileron and for certain "nearly full" aileron was not needed. You're absolutely correct - that should've been nearly full left *rudder*. George Patterson Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting". |
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In article ,
"G.R. Patterson III" wrote: You're absolutely correct - that should've been nearly full left *rudder*. I still have the same question. I've never noticed a need for control input with a window open. -- Dale L. Falk There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing around with airplanes. http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html |
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Dale wrote: In article , "G.R. Patterson III" wrote: You're absolutely correct - that should've been nearly full left *rudder*. I still have the same question. I've never noticed a need for control input with a window open. I did in my '69 Cessna 150J. George Patterson Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting". |
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Wayne wrote: Hmmm, I was reading about taking pictures from planes and most recommended a 300mm lens.. While the focal length is desireable, it's difficult to hold a lens that large steady in something like a 150. If you opt for the longer lenses, I would also opt for 400 ASA film and use a fast shutter speed. George Patterson Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting". |
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A couple of additional comments:
1.) I generally shoot behind the strut rather than ahead of it (between the strut and the fuselage), and usually about the 9 o'clock or even 8 o'clock position in an effort to keep the strut out of the image. I push the seat back as far as safe. 2.) I generally shoot at 1/750th, even with the two Canon Image Stabilizing lens 'on'. 400 speed film. I routinely shoot at 200 - 300mm f/l. 3.) You may want to check the window HINGES, particularly in older 150/152/172 series. They may not have been lubricated in DECADES. One of our PAPA members reports losing a window in flight because the hinge failed. 4.) I've not encountered any significant yaw , pitch or roll problems in any of the 150/152 and 172s I have flown with the pilot's side window open, no tired-leg, etc. 5.) Altitude is your friend. The 1500' agl I typically shoot at gives me a significant additional margin of safety (over, say, 1000' agl) if I have engine trouble (and I did), generally has smoother air, fewer TV towers. If you can't get acceptable images at 1500', maybe you need another lens (or camera). :-) |
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On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:04:37 -0500, G.R. Patterson III wrote:
I did in my '69 Cessna 150J. And I have in my 74 and in a rental 75 and in a rental 66. All required rudder input only. |
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"Matthew P. Cummings" wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:04:37 -0500, G.R. Patterson III wrote: I did in my '69 Cessna 150J. And I have in my 74 and in a rental 75 and in a rental 66. All required rudder input only. Which is what I said. George Patterson Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting". |
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On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:35:22 -0500, G.R. Patterson III wrote:
Which is what I said. Yup, the second time and I wanted to agree with you and support your correct observation. I don't know how those that claim to not notice any change have that effect since every plane I've ever flown exhibits that change. Of course, if both windows are open it's a different story, maybe their planes leak air more than the ones I've flown. |
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