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  #171  
Old May 23rd 10, 01:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

When I asked you if you had ever filled out a flight planning sheet, you
replied that you had not because there would be no one to file it with
anyway.


And there isn't (apart from a basic flight plan for VATSIM flights), for
flight simulation. So there is no error in this.


Correct, there is no "error", just a total lack of understanding of the
subject on your part because you have no real world training or experience.

That means you have no clue that "flight plan" refers to two things:

1. A detailed plan for the flight.

2. An abbreviated summary of the detailed plan filed with the FAA.


I'm aware of both, but the facts above remain correct.

All real pilots do number 1 for all flights (other than the obvious such
as practice in the pattern) including VFR flights.


Not true. Many private pilots are exceedingly casual about flight planning.
This doesn't necessarily lead to accidents, but in many accidents, a lack of
proper planning is a contributing factor.


And you know this to be true how, by your hundreds of hours of actual
flight experience and contact with hundreds of real pilots?

The reality is most pilots these days are "casual" about flight planning
because the use of computer based flight planners make it a trivial task and
not the onerous task you seem to think it is.

These days most people use a computer based flight planning program and
generate the sheets automattically, but all real pilots know how to fill
one out by hand with pencil, paper, and real charts.


What they know how to do when tested, and what they do in the real world when
flying, are not always the same things.


True, but an irrelevant red herring in an attempt to change the direction
of the discussion from your inadequacies.

That's what real pilots are REQUIRED to do to meet the requiements
of 91.103.


There are a lot of things that private pilots are required to do that some of
them don't actually do in practice. The FAA has no way of enforcing these
requirements unless something happens during a flight.


True, but irrelevant.

The fact that real pilots are people and not always 100% perfect in their
every action is irrelevant to the original point of what YOU know and
what YOU do.

Given you don't know a thing about how to do flight planning, anything
you have to say about the topic, such as the "best" route from point A
to point B, is worthless.


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  #172  
Old May 23rd 10, 01:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sat, 22 May 2010 13:49:42 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:

On May 22, 12:01*pm, Ari wrote:

So let me get this straight.

All of you who play this imbecilic post-troll-respond game with this
idiot are idiots?


No, you're the only bonafide idiot here.

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  #173  
Old May 23rd 10, 02:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Correct, there is no "error" ...


I agree.

And you know this to be true how, by your hundreds of hours of actual
flight experience and contact with hundreds of real pilots?


Pilots don't often admit doing stupid things, unless they are so stupid that
they don't realize that they are doing stupid things. However, people around
them notice, and sometimes accident reports mention it.

The relatively high accident statistics of private pilots demonstrate that
they are doing lots of stupid things as a group, although obviously there are
both stupid and smart private pilots out there.

The reality is most pilots these days are "casual" about flight planning
because the use of computer based flight planners make it a trivial task and
not the onerous task you seem to think it is.


Even with computers available, a significant number of pilots will not bother
to plan. Fuel exhaustion, for example, is still a very common cause of
incidents and accidents, and it's trivial to avoid with a bit of planning.

The fact that real pilots are people and not always 100% perfect in their
every action is irrelevant to the original point of what YOU know and
what YOU do.


You've already acknowledged that I'm correct.

Given you don't know a thing about how to do flight planning, anything
you have to say about the topic, such as the "best" route from point A
to point B, is worthless.


See above. There are facts, which in this case are generally correct when I
relate them, and there are opinions, which aren't worth much.
  #175  
Old May 23rd 10, 03:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 22, 7:06*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
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Your opinions don't conflict with themselves, as far as I can recall, but they
conflict with mine. A conflict of opinion is not the same as a factual error.


Your opinion means NOTHING in the real world of flying.

DID YOU FORGET THE FOLLOWING?

You are NOT a credible source to even comment on flying in the real
world.

Why?? You are not a CGI. You NEVER FLEW in a real plane as PIC.

Therefore your lying AND MISREPRESENTATION will be brought out
front and center.
  #176  
Old May 23rd 10, 04:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Your opinion means NOTHING in the real world of flying.


Of course, that's only your opinion.
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Old May 23rd 10, 04:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 22, 10:05*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
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Your opinion means NOTHING in the real world of flying.


Of course, that's only your opinion.


I will be sure to post your experience in ANY thread you participate
so NEW people fully understand how you lie and misrepresent
yourself.

That's not opinion, but fact IN THE REAL WORLD of flying.
  #179  
Old May 23rd 10, 04:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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" wrote:
You are not a CGI.


I'm not familiar with the acronym CGI. Any relation to CFI?
  #180  
Old May 23rd 10, 05:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jim Logajan writes:

" wrote:
You are not a CGI.


I'm not familiar with the acronym CGI. Any relation to CFI?


CGI = Certified Ground Instructor
 




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