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Old December 6th 03, 07:41 AM
Ditch
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Why put it in the panel. I'm sure you could mount it between the seats.


"Venus" wrote in message
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I dont know either, but when I was at the avionics shop picking up my

plane
recently, there was a pressureized C-210 they had just starteding working

and
let me peek inside. It had dual garmin 330 x-ponders, garmin 430,530 and

an
MX20, it also had some other nifty stuff like a flight navigator and so

on.


Scott Aron Bloom wrote:

Ok, Im not talking about the commercial carriers. But why would a

general
aviation plane have dual transponders? Why waste the panel space? So

they
go
tits up that often in flight where its necessary?

Scott



The Twin Otter I flew had dual X-ponders. But we were using it for skydiving
ops and if the X-ponder goes down, we can't operate as a jump plane. SOOoo..we
had two....even had to use the 2nd one on occasion. Also, we had the panel
space to spare, so it was no biggie.




-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*
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Old December 14th 03, 05:54 AM
John Roncallo
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I'm shure if you have dual Garmins the rest of your pannel space becomes
empty. Garmines pack a lot of boxes in one box.

John Roncallo

Peter wrote:
Why put it in the panel. I'm sure you could mount it between the seats.


"Venus" wrote in message
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I dont know either, but when I was at the avionics shop picking up my


plane

recently, there was a pressureized C-210 they had just starteding working


and

let me peek inside. It had dual garmin 330 x-ponders, garmin 430,530 and


an

MX20, it also had some other nifty stuff like a flight navigator and so


on.


Scott Aron Bloom wrote:


Ok, Im not talking about the commercial carriers. But why would a


general

aviation plane have dual transponders? Why waste the panel space? So


they

go
tits up that often in flight where its necessary?

Scott





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Old December 4th 03, 04:55 PM
Casey Wilson
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"Scott Aron Bloom" wrote in message
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Ok, Im not talking about the commercial carriers. But why would a general
aviation plane have dual transponders? Why waste the panel space? So

they
go
tits up that often in flight where its necessary?

Scott



I dunno, but maybe for the same reason some people carry along handheld
radios, pocket GPS, extra batteries, 2 or 3 pencils, yadda, yadda...


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Old December 4th 03, 06:07 PM
Brad Z
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I noticed that ATP Inc. uses two transponders in their Seminole trainers.
My understanding is that because many of the ATP locations only have one
plane, no maintenance shop, and operate out of class C airports, a faulty
transponder would effectively ground the airplane, making a "Four day" multi
course a four week course.


"Scott Aron Bloom" wrote in message
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Ok, Im not talking about the commercial carriers. But why would a general
aviation plane have dual transponders? Why waste the panel space? So

they
go
tits up that often in flight where its necessary?

Scott




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Old December 4th 03, 06:13 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Brad Z" wrote in message
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I noticed that ATP Inc. uses two transponders in their Seminole trainers.
My understanding is that because many of the ATP locations only have one
plane, no maintenance shop, and operate out of class C airports, a faulty
transponder would effectively ground the airplane, making a "Four day"

multi
course a four week course.


A faulty transponder COULD effectively ground the airplane. ATC can
authorize operations without a transponder, but there's no guarantee they
will.


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Old December 5th 03, 07:02 AM
Brad Z
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A faulty transponder COULD effectively ground the airplane. ATC can
authorize operations without a transponder, but there's no guarantee they
will.



My bad, "unless otherwise authorized" (AIM 3-2-4 (d)(2)(b)) the plane is
effectively grounded. I suppose the offending transponder would need to be
placarded "inop" as well.


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Old December 4th 03, 09:57 PM
Scott Aron Bloom
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This makes sense, but I was just looking on ASO at some senecas and about
10-15% had
dual xponders. But I was also seeing them on bonanzas and others....

Scott


"Brad Z" wrote in message
news:MJKzb.301460$9E1.1527176@attbi_s52...
I noticed that ATP Inc. uses two transponders in their Seminole trainers.
My understanding is that because many of the ATP locations only have one
plane, no maintenance shop, and operate out of class C airports, a faulty
transponder would effectively ground the airplane, making a "Four day"

multi
course a four week course.


"Scott Aron Bloom" wrote in message
...
Ok, Im not talking about the commercial carriers. But why would a

general
aviation plane have dual transponders? Why waste the panel space? So

they
go
tits up that often in flight where its necessary?

Scott






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Old December 4th 03, 10:12 PM
JerryK
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I have dual transponders. Without a transponder you are restricted in the
altitudes you can fly and you have to make position reports. Both of these
restrictions can really be a major pain when flying high for any distance.

BTW, in case anyone is wondering, the transponders are wired such that only
one transponder is active at any one time. You set both transponders to
Mode C and your code into both. Another switch determines which transponder
is active. In my installation, the non-active transponder is is standby
mode.

jerry

"Scott Aron Bloom" wrote in message
...
Ok, Im not talking about the commercial carriers. But why would a general
aviation plane have dual transponders? Why waste the panel space? So

they
go
tits up that often in flight where its necessary?

Scott




 




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