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10.000 Miles In A 2-Cylinder Motorglider in 1930.
I ran across another interesting old photo: http://cgi.ebay.com/1930-Tom-Thumb-P...QQcmdZViewItem 1930 Tom Thumb Plane/Glider Vintage Aviation Photo Joseph Jones and Edwin Wingerton take off for South America in their micro "pleasure plane". Date: Nov 28, 1930 Bound for South American in a Tom Thumb airplane Caldwell, N. J.... Joseph Jones and Edwin Wingerton taking off for South America in their tiny plane-glider. Ten thousand miles of land must unfold before them before they reach their destination. It is a brave attempt considering the size of the plane. If the flight is successful, it will establish a record for "pleasure planes." Does anyone have any additional information about this record attempt or the aviators? |
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10.000 Miles In A 2-Cylinder Motorglider in 1930.
Larry Dighera wrote in
: I ran across another interesting old photo: http://cgi.ebay.com/1930-Tom-Thumb-P...tage-Aviation- Photo_ W0QQitemZ220229201514QQihZ012QQcategoryZ14279QQssP ageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQ c mdZViewItem 1930 Tom Thumb Plane/Glider Vintage Aviation Photo Joseph Jones and Edwin Wingerton take off for South America in their micro "pleasure plane". Date: Nov 28, 1930 Bound for South American in a Tom Thumb airplane Caldwell, N. J.... Joseph Jones and Edwin Wingerton taking off for South America in their tiny plane-glider. Ten thousand miles of land must unfold before them before they reach their destination. It is a brave attempt considering the size of the plane. If the flight is successful, it will establish a record for "pleasure planes." Does anyone have any additional information about this record attempt or the aviators? That's an Aeronca C-2 with an E107 engine on the nose. 26 HP. A good airplane in it's day, it's not a motorglider, though. It's also a single seater and there's no way it would fly unless those guys weigh less than about 90 lbs each. That is a very very early one as well. Bugy type landing gear. I'm not sure if there are any that early surviving. I've flown the much higher powered C-3 ( 33 HP!) and it went OK with one up not so good with two, though it did go up. Unlikely those guys made the trip unless they had some decent ground support. and some very good intel. That thing cruises at about 50 on a good day, BTW. Bertie Bertie |
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10.000 Miles In A 2-Cylinder Motorglider in 1930.
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
That's an Aeronca C-2 with an E107 engine on the nose. 26 HP. A good airplane in it's day, it's not a motorglider, though. It's also a single seater and there's no way it would fly unless those guys weigh less than about 90 lbs each. Agreed. I had an opportunity to take a short flight in a C-2 (a.k.a. Flying Bathtub) about 20 yrs. ago (my first tailwheel flight). The one I flew looks like the one in the pic except for the landing gear wheels looked more like bicycle wheels. I think the pic and the story must be a 1930s hoax (or some poor pilot's wishful thinking). I can't see any way that two guys could fly a C-2 to South America. John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180) -- Message posted via AviationKB.com http://www.aviationkb.com/Uwe/Forums...ation/200805/1 |
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10.000 Miles In A 2-Cylinder Motorglider in 1930.
"JGalban via AviationKB.com" u32749@uwe wrote in
news:838437c34fdda@uwe: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: That's an Aeronca C-2 with an E107 engine on the nose. 26 HP. A good airplane in it's day, it's not a motorglider, though. It's also a single seater and there's no way it would fly unless those guys weigh less than about 90 lbs each. Agreed. I had an opportunity to take a short flight in a C-2 (a.k.a. Flying Bathtub) about 20 yrs. ago (my first tailwheel flight). The one I flew looks like the one in the pic except for the landing gear wheels looked more like bicycle wheels. Yeah, that's a real early one with what were known as "buggy" wheels. Most of them had balloon tires though. The bike wheels must be something it picked up in a restoration. I think the pic and the story must be a 1930s hoax (or some poor pilot's wishful thinking). I can't see any way that two guys could fly a C-2 to South America. I can't see two guys getting airborne in one, never mnd getting anywhere! They set a lot of records in their day, though. IIRC someone got one up to 20,000' plus (probably over Pike's Peak. Your airplane was unsalable unless you flew it over Pike's peak) and I think one set an unrefueled endurance record or something. I have a large library of 20s and 30s aviation mags and books and these two spunky guys in a flivver stories are commonplace. Aviation was a huge adventure and the world stopped and held it's breath for record flights. Big temptation for a couple of kids to try it on a shoestring. I'd be willing to bet they tried it, one of them following behind in a beat up Model T and it all ending in tears when the Airknocker went into a tree somewhere. Then,of course, the phone call home to Ma to get money wired to some ******** town in texas where the wreck lay.. Bertie |
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10.000 Miles In A 2-Cylinder Motorglider in 1930.
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . Larry Dighera wrote in : I ran across another interesting old photo: http://cgi.ebay.com/1930-Tom-Thumb-P...tage-Aviation- Photo_ W0QQitemZ220229201514QQihZ012QQcategoryZ14279QQssP ageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQ c mdZViewItem 1930 Tom Thumb Plane/Glider Vintage Aviation Photo Joseph Jones and Edwin Wingerton take off for South America in their micro "pleasure plane". Date: Nov 28, 1930 Bound for South American in a Tom Thumb airplane Caldwell, N. J.... Joseph Jones and Edwin Wingerton taking off for South America in their tiny plane-glider. Ten thousand miles of land must unfold before them before they reach their destination. It is a brave attempt considering the size of the plane. If the flight is successful, it will establish a record for "pleasure planes." Does anyone have any additional information about this record attempt or the aviators? That's an Aeronca C-2 with an E107 engine on the nose. 26 HP. A good airplane in it's day, it's not a motorglider, though. It's also a single seater and there's no way it would fly unless those guys weigh less than about 90 lbs each. That is a very very early one as well. Bugy type landing gear. I'm not sure if there are any that early surviving. I've flown the much higher powered C-3 ( 33 HP!) and it went OK with one up not so good with two, though it did go up. Unlikely those guys made the trip unless they had some decent ground support. and some very good intel. That thing cruises at about 50 on a good day, BTW. Bertie Bertie Aren't you and MX glad you have google? Almost sounds like you know what you're talking about Squirty. |
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10.000 Miles In A 2-Cylinder Motorglider in 1930.
"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:JVpSj.59198$QC.8438
@newsfe20.lga: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . Larry Dighera wrote in : I ran across another interesting old photo: http://cgi.ebay.com/1930-Tom-Thumb-P...tage-Aviation- Photo_ W0QQitemZ220229201514QQihZ012QQcategoryZ14279QQssP ageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQ c mdZViewItem 1930 Tom Thumb Plane/Glider Vintage Aviation Photo Joseph Jones and Edwin Wingerton take off for South America in their micro "pleasure plane". Date: Nov 28, 1930 Bound for South American in a Tom Thumb airplane Caldwell, N. J.... Joseph Jones and Edwin Wingerton taking off for South America in their tiny plane-glider. Ten thousand miles of land must unfold before them before they reach their destination. It is a brave attempt considering the size of the plane. If the flight is successful, it will establish a record for "pleasure planes." Does anyone have any additional information about this record attempt or the aviators? That's an Aeronca C-2 with an E107 engine on the nose. 26 HP. A good airplane in it's day, it's not a motorglider, though. It's also a single seater and there's no way it would fly unless those guys weigh less than about 90 lbs each. That is a very very early one as well. Bugy type landing gear. I'm not sure if there are any that early surviving. I've flown the much higher powered C-3 ( 33 HP!) and it went OK with one up not so good with two, though it did go up. Unlikely those guys made the trip unless they had some decent ground support. and some very good intel. That thing cruises at about 50 on a good day, BTW. Bertie Bertie Aren't you and MX glad you have google? Almost sounds like you know what you're talking about Squirty. I do know what I'm talking about. And anyone else who knows what they are talking about knows it. Bertie |
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10.000 Miles In A 2-Cylinder Motorglider in 1930.
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . "JGalban via AviationKB.com" u32749@uwe wrote in news:838437c34fdda@uwe: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: That's an Aeronca C-2 with an E107 engine on the nose. 26 HP. A good airplane in it's day, it's not a motorglider, though. It's also a single seater and there's no way it would fly unless those guys weigh less than about 90 lbs each. Agreed. I had an opportunity to take a short flight in a C-2 (a.k.a. Flying Bathtub) about 20 yrs. ago (my first tailwheel flight). The one I flew looks like the one in the pic except for the landing gear wheels looked more like bicycle wheels. Yeah, that's a real early one with what were known as "buggy" wheels. Most of them had balloon tires though. The bike wheels must be something it picked up in a restoration. I think the pic and the story must be a 1930s hoax (or some poor pilot's wishful thinking). I can't see any way that two guys could fly a C-2 to South America. I can't see two guys getting airborne in one, never mnd getting anywhere! They set a lot of records in their day, though. IIRC someone got one up to 20,000' plus (probably over Pike's Peak. Your airplane was unsalable unless you flew it over Pike's peak) and I think one set an unrefueled endurance record or something. I have a large library of 20s and 30s aviation mags and books and these two spunky guys in a flivver stories are commonplace. Aviation was a huge adventure and the world stopped and held it's breath for record flights. Big temptation for a couple of kids to try it on a shoestring. I'd be willing to bet they tried it, one of them following behind in a beat up Model T and it all ending in tears when the Airknocker went into a tree somewhere. Then,of course, the phone call home to Ma to get money wired to some ******** town in texas where the wreck lay.. Bertie Ya gotta link? When you google up this ****, save the link. |
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10.000 Miles In A 2-Cylinder Motorglider in 1930.
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . "Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:JVpSj.59198$QC.8438 @newsfe20.lga: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . Larry Dighera wrote in : I ran across another interesting old photo: http://cgi.ebay.com/1930-Tom-Thumb-P...tage-Aviation- Photo_ W0QQitemZ220229201514QQihZ012QQcategoryZ14279QQssP ageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQ c mdZViewItem 1930 Tom Thumb Plane/Glider Vintage Aviation Photo Joseph Jones and Edwin Wingerton take off for South America in their micro "pleasure plane". Date: Nov 28, 1930 Bound for South American in a Tom Thumb airplane Caldwell, N. J.... Joseph Jones and Edwin Wingerton taking off for South America in their tiny plane-glider. Ten thousand miles of land must unfold before them before they reach their destination. It is a brave attempt considering the size of the plane. If the flight is successful, it will establish a record for "pleasure planes." Does anyone have any additional information about this record attempt or the aviators? That's an Aeronca C-2 with an E107 engine on the nose. 26 HP. A good airplane in it's day, it's not a motorglider, though. It's also a single seater and there's no way it would fly unless those guys weigh less than about 90 lbs each. That is a very very early one as well. Bugy type landing gear. I'm not sure if there are any that early surviving. I've flown the much higher powered C-3 ( 33 HP!) and it went OK with one up not so good with two, though it did go up. Unlikely those guys made the trip unless they had some decent ground support. and some very good intel. That thing cruises at about 50 on a good day, BTW. Bertie Bertie Aren't you and MX glad you have google? Almost sounds like you know what you're talking about Squirty. I do know what I'm talking about. And anyone else who knows what they are talking about knows it. Bertie Sure we do Gurtie. Cuz Gertie knows everything, and Gertie knows everyone, and Gertie has done everything. |
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10.000 Miles In A 2-Cylinder Motorglider in 1930.
"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:K4qSj.59205$QC.32069
@newsfe20.lga: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . "JGalban via AviationKB.com" u32749@uwe wrote in news:838437c34fdda@uwe: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: That's an Aeronca C-2 with an E107 engine on the nose. 26 HP. A good airplane in it's day, it's not a motorglider, though. It's also a single seater and there's no way it would fly unless those guys weigh less than about 90 lbs each. Agreed. I had an opportunity to take a short flight in a C-2 (a.k.a. Flying Bathtub) about 20 yrs. ago (my first tailwheel flight). The one I flew looks like the one in the pic except for the landing gear wheels looked more like bicycle wheels. Yeah, that's a real early one with what were known as "buggy" wheels. Most of them had balloon tires though. The bike wheels must be something it picked up in a restoration. I think the pic and the story must be a 1930s hoax (or some poor pilot's wishful thinking). I can't see any way that two guys could fly a C- 2 to South America. I can't see two guys getting airborne in one, never mnd getting anywhere! They set a lot of records in their day, though. IIRC someone got one up to 20,000' plus (probably over Pike's Peak. Your airplane was unsalable unless you flew it over Pike's peak) and I think one set an unrefueled endurance record or something. I have a large library of 20s and 30s aviation mags and books and these two spunky guys in a flivver stories are commonplace. Aviation was a huge adventure and the world stopped and held it's breath for record flights. Big temptation for a couple of kids to try it on a shoestring. I'd be willing to bet they tried it, one of them following behind in a beat up Model T and it all ending in tears when the Airknocker went into a tree somewhere. Then,of course, the phone call home to Ma to get money wired to some ******** town in texas where the wreck lay.. Bertie Ya gotta link? When you google up this ****, save the link. Nope. Just looked in my head.. Some peopel actualyl know thinkgs you know. Foreign concept for you, I realise, but it's true. Bertie |
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10.000 Miles In A 2-Cylinder Motorglider in 1930.
"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in
: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . "Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:JVpSj.59198$QC.8438 @newsfe20.lga: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . Larry Dighera wrote in : I ran across another interesting old photo: http://cgi.ebay.com/1930-Tom-Thumb-P...tage-Aviation- Photo_ W0QQitemZ220229201514QQihZ012QQcategoryZ14279QQssP ageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQ c mdZViewItem 1930 Tom Thumb Plane/Glider Vintage Aviation Photo Joseph Jones and Edwin Wingerton take off for South America in their micro "pleasure plane". Date: Nov 28, 1930 Bound for South American in a Tom Thumb airplane Caldwell, N. J.... Joseph Jones and Edwin Wingerton taking off for South America in their tiny plane-glider. Ten thousand miles of land must unfold before them before they reach their destination. It is a brave attempt considering the size of the plane. If the flight is successful, it will establish a record for "pleasure planes." Does anyone have any additional information about this record attempt or the aviators? That's an Aeronca C-2 with an E107 engine on the nose. 26 HP. A good airplane in it's day, it's not a motorglider, though. It's also a single seater and there's no way it would fly unless those guys weigh less than about 90 lbs each. That is a very very early one as well. Bugy type landing gear. I'm not sure if there are any that early surviving. I've flown the much higher powered C-3 ( 33 HP!) and it went OK with one up not so good with two, though it did go up. Unlikely those guys made the trip unless they had some decent ground support. and some very good intel. That thing cruises at about 50 on a good day, BTW. Bertie Bertie Aren't you and MX glad you have google? Almost sounds like you know what you're talking about Squirty. I do know what I'm talking about. And anyone else who knows what they are talking about knows it. Bertie Sure we do Gurtie. Cuz Gertie knows everything, and Gertie knows everyone, and Gertie has done everything. Not everythign, but more than you. Of course, I saw a slug out in the garden today that's done more flying than you. Bertie |
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