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Need Help with OLJK two battery switch
I have a shorted capacitor in OLJK switch. I am looking of a web
site, wiring diagram, new capacitor ect. This is a switch that allows you to change batteries without losing power. Can anyone help?? Bill Snead |
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Need Help with OLJK two battery switch
On Feb 28, 6:31*pm, " wrote:
I have a shorted capacitor in OLJK switch. *I am looking of a web site, wiring diagram, new capacitor ect. *This is a switch that allows you to change batteries without losing power. Can anyone help?? Bill Snead I doubt you have a shorted capacitor. These things likely contain a tantalum capacitor or similar. Those capacitors tend to fail open- circuit and often due to being accident having the reverse voltage applied--but hopefully a good design would have diode protection to avoid this. And if anything has fails closed circuit across your battery it will likely be open circuit pretty quickly... I've never heard of an OLJK switch. If these are you trying to deal with switch contact lag times of order 1-10 ms, ~10V and 1A type loads then you can end up needing capacitors of order 1000uF or so, it all depends on the voltage tolerance of the load. In this scenario the capacitor is just placed across the load (it is if it inside the master switch). If much smaller capacitors work in practice I start to question wether they are needed at all--are you sure this is needed in your case? If what you are trying to solve is a transient glitch causing a problem for a logger, you are better off putting the capacitor (and diodes) across just that devices. This has been discussed here before. Search for Volkslogger and capacitor. Personally I prefer two suitably sized master switches that allow either or both batteries to be on the main buss. Darryl |
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Need Help with OLJK two battery switch
Personally I prefer two suitably sized master switches that allow either or both batteries to be on the main buss. Darryl Yep, I have flown with two switches for years. Simply switch on the new battery just before switching off the old battery. Please, don't tell me some horror story about "exploding" batteries! I have taken readings with a 10v 'dead' battery connevted in parallel to a 12.8v 'fresh' battery and all I read was 300 m/a as the fresh battery tried to charge the dead battery. And don't tell me about voltage spikes either, because all those red-necks jumping their car batteries seem to be surviving quite well, don't they? JJ |
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Need Help with OLJK two battery switch
Yep, I have flown with two switches for years. Simply switch on the
new battery just before switching off the old battery. Please, don't tell me some horror story about "exploding" batteries! I have taken readings with a 10v 'dead' battery connevted in parallel to a 12.8v 'fresh' battery and all I read was 300 m/a as the fresh battery tried to charge the dead battery. And don't tell me about voltage spikes either, *because all those red-necks jumping their car batteries seem to be surviving quite well, don't they? JJ My panel is wired according to JJ's plan. Two batteries. Two switches. One buss. The avionics shop owner/technician and I discussed the "make before break" type of switch, but he said his two switches would work just as well. And as JJ said, switch the second battery "on" before switching the first battery "off". So far, I haven't had any probems. And, I resemble JJ's remark about red-necks jumping car batteries! Ray Lovinggood Born and raised in SC, currently employed and living in NC. And if you want to see some red-necks, just come to my family reunion... |
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Need Help with OLJK two battery switch
OLJK = DPDT? Make before break? The only web reference to OLJK
points back to us! The idea of a capacitor to keep power going during a battery switch cycle is an interesting idea. How big of a cap would we need to survive a 1sec loss of power with a 500ma load allowing for a 1VDC drop? I personally use the two (fused) batteries in parallel approach and haven't had any issues at all. But am toying with the two batteries and two switches (three counting a master) approach. A late winter project. That and replacing all my connectors with powerpoles. I REALLY like these modular connectors which come in a myriad of colors. One thing to note. Before a speech I gave at the 2007 SSA convention on "Soaring Avionics Wiring" I wanted to know if flight recorders would survive a temporary power outage while switching batteries. So I wrote to every manufacturer and found that all except the Volkslogger will easily survive several seconds of lost power. PLUS they each will keep the same log file intact. A "small" gap in a log file is legal as long as it is obvious that it is the same flight. This has more to do with a lost GPS signal than a power outage but the effect is the same. My $0.02. - John DeRosa |
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Need Help with OLJK two battery switch
On Mar 2, 5:53*pm, ContestID67 wrote:
*How big of a cap would we need to survive a 1sec loss of power with a 500ma load allowing for a 1VDC drop? Constant current discharge of a capacitor (will be close enough)... C = t . i / deltaV = 1 . 0.5 / 1 = 0.5 F Easily doable with today's supercapacitors. But as I pointed out earlier, mechanical switch issues usually happen over time frames of 10's of ms. Not 1 sec. And why do anything if it is not really needed. Darryl |
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Need Help with OLJK two battery switch
On Mar 1, 9:18*am, JJ Sinclair wrote:
Personally I prefer two suitably sized master switches that allow either or both batteries to be on the main buss. Darryl Yep, I have flown with two switches for years. Simply switch on the new battery just before switching off the old battery. Please, don't tell me some horror story about "exploding" batteries! I have taken readings with a 10v 'dead' battery connevted in parallel to a 12.8v 'fresh' battery and all I read was 300 m/a as the fresh battery tried to charge the dead battery. And don't tell me about voltage spikes either, *because all those red-necks jumping their car batteries seem to be surviving quite well, don't they? JJ JJ right again. Simple No special stuff Has worked for me for 30 yr. UH |
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