B2 and F117 question...

Are the B2 and F117 equipped with chaff and flare dispensors for emergency
use, or do they rely completely on stealth?

Also, would using such systems in an emergency actually do more harm than
good by revealing the position of the aircraft?

"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message .. .
Are the B2 and F117 equipped with chaff and flare dispensors for emergency
use, or do they rely completely on stealth?

Also, would using such systems in an emergency actually do more harm than
good by revealing the position of the aircraft?

Yes, they are equipped with Chaff and Flare dispensers, and no they
wouldn't do more harm then good. If you need to you them, then your
position has already been revealed, because that means there is a
missile inbound.

"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote:

Are the B2 and F117 equipped with chaff and flare dispensors for emergency
use, or do they rely completely on stealth?

The problem with asking a question on a sensitive topic is that the
people who know the answer are likely to keep quiet. I was an avionics
maintainer for 10 years in B-2 flight test, and I've commented in some
detail about certain aspects of the plane in this newsgroup. But when
the topic is low observables, radar, EW, and the like, I won't talk.

Don't take that as a rebuke. There's nothing wrong with asking your
question -- just beware of the answers! Normally, the bad ones are
quickly shot down in a newsgroup. But when the subject is classified
or sensitive, the best-qualified gunners have to hold fire.

--

Paul Hirose
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"Paul Hirose" wrote in message
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"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote:

Are the B2 and F117 equipped with chaff and flare dispensors for
emergency
use, or do they rely completely on stealth?

The problem with asking a question on a sensitive topic is that the
people who know the answer are likely to keep quiet. I was an avionics
maintainer for 10 years in B-2 flight test, and I've commented in some
detail about certain aspects of the plane in this newsgroup. But when
the topic is low observables, radar, EW, and the like, I won't talk.

Don't take that as a rebuke. There's nothing wrong with asking your
question -- just beware of the answers! Normally, the bad ones are
quickly shot down in a newsgroup. But when the subject is classified
or sensitive, the best-qualified gunners have to hold fire.



I didn't realize that it was a sensitive question; just figured that this
info was out there.

I was at the firepower demo at Pt. Bravo (Indian Springs), and I don't
recall the F117a or B2 releasing any flares, nor do I have any photos
showing them releasing flares. Of course, this doesn't mean they don't
have any. ;-)

The B1b, which in theory is stealth, has plenty of flares. They pop
out the top.
http://www.lazygranch.com/capstone.htm
for the demo in october 2002, with some video of the B1 releasing
flares.

The latest capstone photos I took are at
http://www.lazygranch.com/capstone2.htm



"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message .. .
"Paul Hirose" wrote in message
...
"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote:

Are the B2 and F117 equipped with chaff and flare dispensors for
emergency
use, or do they rely completely on stealth?

The problem with asking a question on a sensitive topic is that the
people who know the answer are likely to keep quiet. I was an avionics
maintainer for 10 years in B-2 flight test, and I've commented in some
detail about certain aspects of the plane in this newsgroup. But when
the topic is low observables, radar, EW, and the like, I won't talk.

Don't take that as a rebuke. There's nothing wrong with asking your
question -- just beware of the answers! Normally, the bad ones are
quickly shot down in a newsgroup. But when the subject is classified
or sensitive, the best-qualified gunners have to hold fire.



I didn't realize that it was a sensitive question; just figured that this
info was out there.

"miso" wrote in message
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The B1b, which in theory is stealth, has plenty of flares.


What theory is that?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"miso" wrote in message
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The B1b, which in theory is stealth, has plenty of flares.


What theory is that?


I thought that the B1 was desiged as a low-observable aircraft; maybe not
stealth, but I do remember reading that it has a smaller signature than the
F-14.

"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message
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I thought that the B1 was desiged as a low-observable aircraft; maybe not
stealth, but I do remember reading that it has a smaller signature than
the
F-14.


"Not stealth" is correct.

I thought that the B1 was desiged as a low-observable aircraft; maybe not
stealth, but I do remember reading that it has a smaller signature than the
F-14.

It wasnt really designed that way probably, but with the B-1B version, there
were modifications to lower the RCS, getting rid of the variable engine inlets
being among them I believe.

Its not a stealth aircraft per se, but definitely a lower RCS than many other
aircraft

Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)
Silver City Tanker Base

Some people say the B1B isn't steathly, and some say it is. Don't try
to think too deeply about this.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message hlink.net...
"miso" wrote in message
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The B1b, which in theory is stealth, has plenty of flares.


What theory is that?