Airplane prices are ridiculous, Pt.2

Mxsmanic wrote:
Mark writes:

Not really Mxsmanic. For instance, in the
trainers I've flown (Cessna 172's, 152's, Piper J-3's)
not once do I remember exceeding 115 mph, but
in the right LSA you could be clipping along at
near 140mph.

That's practical time-saving transportation.

To be practical for actual transportation, you generally need an instrument
rating (unless you live out in the desert somewhere where weather is never a
factor). Sport pilots can't get that.

I guess it's okay for people flying for fun, particularly if they cannot pass
a medical.

A private pilot by definition is flying for fun.



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lucky lindy wrote:

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I guess it's okay for people flying for fun, particularly if they cannot
pass
a medical.


Exactly! That's what I'd be doing too, if I could afford it. Isn't that
the whole idea of the Sport Pilot certificate. Why else would someone with
a PPL want to restrict himself with a LSA? The good old days when almost
any airport had a couple of stick-and-rudder tail draggers around for rental
are long gone. Recreation flying has become out of reach for many. But
what the hell, I can't afford a Beemer, either. grin

How would a private pilot be restricted by flying a LSA?

Most LSA's have lights, which means you can fly them at night.

Some LSA's are IFR equipped, which means you can fly them IFR.



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lucky lindy wrote:

wrote
I guess it's okay for people flying for fun, particularly if they cannot
pass
a medical.


Exactly! That's what I'd be doing too, if I could afford it. Isn't that
the whole idea of the Sport Pilot certificate. Why else would someone
with
a PPL want to restrict himself with a LSA? The good old days when almost
any airport had a couple of stick-and-rudder tail draggers around for
rental
are long gone. Recreation flying has become out of reach for many. But
what the hell, I can't afford a Beemer, either. grin

How would a private pilot be restricted by flying a LSA?


Jim Pennino

A private pilot without a medical or the hopes of ever having another one
would be restricted to the Sport Pilot limits in a LSA. But that is all
moot anyhow if he can't afford the LSA.

sambodidley wrote:

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lucky lindy wrote:

wrote
I guess it's okay for people flying for fun, particularly if they cannot
pass
a medical.


Exactly! That's what I'd be doing too, if I could afford it. Isn't that
the whole idea of the Sport Pilot certificate. Why else would someone
with
a PPL want to restrict himself with a LSA? The good old days when almost
any airport had a couple of stick-and-rudder tail draggers around for
rental
are long gone. Recreation flying has become out of reach for many. But
what the hell, I can't afford a Beemer, either. grin

How would a private pilot be restricted by flying a LSA?


Jim Pennino

A private pilot without a medical or the hopes of ever having another one
would be restricted to the Sport Pilot limits in a LSA. But that is all
moot anyhow if he can't afford the LSA.

And those limits would be?

Keep in mind if you have a private, you already have all the Sport Pilot
optional training.


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Jim Pennino

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On Sep 11, 1:30*pm, wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
Mark writes:

Not really Mxsmanic. *For instance, in the
trainers I've flown (Cessna 172's, 152's, Piper J-3's)
not once do I remember exceeding 115 mph, but
in the right LSA you could be clipping along at
near 140mph.

That's practical time-saving transportation.

To be practical for actual transportation, you generally need an instrument
rating (unless you live out in the desert somewhere where weather is never a
factor). Sport pilots can't get that.

I guess it's okay for people flying for fun, particularly if they cannot pass
a medical.

A private pilot by definition is flying for fun.

--
Jim Pennino

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Jim Pennino wrote
A private pilot by definition is flying for fun.

Oh really? I guess my peer private pilots are a self selected group,
we fly our complex singles mostly for business purposes and have the
costs covered by expense accounts.

sambodidley writes:

A private pilot without a medical or the hopes of ever having another one
would be restricted to the Sport Pilot limits in a LSA. But that is all
moot anyhow if he can't afford the LSA.

And a private pilot also needs a medical to get his license, so that makes it
moot as well. If he loses his medical, he's not eligible for a Sport Pilot
certificate.

writes:

A private pilot by definition is flying for fun.

He can fly for business purposes, within narrow limits. But if he flies for
business, he'll need an instrument rating, or he'll have to accept that he may
not be able to profit from the airplane as often as he'd like.

Mxsmanic wrote:
sambodidley writes:

A private pilot without a medical or the hopes of ever having another one
would be restricted to the Sport Pilot limits in a LSA. But that is all
moot anyhow if he can't afford the LSA.

And a private pilot also needs a medical to get his license, so that makes it
moot as well. If he loses his medical, he's not eligible for a Sport Pilot
certificate.

If your medical has been denied, you can't fly airplanes period.

If you have ever had a private and it hasn't been revoked, you can fly as
a sport pilot.

There is no way to downgrade a private certificate to a sport pilot
certificate.


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sambodidley writes:

A private pilot without a medical or the hopes of ever having another one
would be restricted to the Sport Pilot limits in a LSA. But that is all
moot anyhow if he can't afford the LSA.

And a private pilot also needs a medical to get his license, so that makes
it
moot as well. If he loses his medical, he's not eligible for a Sport Pilot
certificate.

He hasn't lost his medical. He just doesn't have a current one and hasn't
failed one nor had one recalled. He can still fly a LSA under his PPL with
a drivers license but only under a Sport Pilot's limits. But still. the
major limiting factor in his case is the cost. Affordable rentals are no
longer available and haven't been in decades.

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On Sep 11, 1:30Â*pm, wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
Mark writes:

Not really Mxsmanic. Â*For instance, in the
trainers I've flown (Cessna 172's, 152's, Piper J-3's)
not once do I remember exceeding 115 mph, but
in the right LSA you could be clipping along at
near 140mph.

That's practical time-saving transportation.

To be practical for actual transportation, you generally need an instrument
rating (unless you live out in the desert somewhere where weather is never a
factor). Sport pilots can't get that.

I guess it's okay for people flying for fun, particularly if they cannot pass
a medical.

A private pilot by definition is flying for fun.

--
Jim Pennino

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Jim Pennino wrote
A private pilot by definition is flying for fun.

Oh really? I guess my peer private pilots are a self selected group,
we fly our complex singles mostly for business purposes and have the
costs covered by expense accounts.

I wouldn't advertise that too widely.

The FAA and IRS have some terribly convoluted and arcane rules that can
bite you in the ass big time.

Yeah, I know, your official response is you fly for business instead of
driving because flying is fun.

Right?


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