Survival II

("Ron Wanttaja" wrote)
The coil spring was a natural trigger, and when you pulled it, the
contrivance simultaneously launched the match while igniting it.

Used to ride our bicycles in dogfights shooting at each other....


Hey, you're the one who introduced clothespins...!!

I'd take you on with my rubber binder clothespin fly-shooter pistol. Yes,
using the"good" red rubber binders from the Butcher Shop!

"Another dud farmers match from Ron's gun. Ooh, I'm so scared."

Aim ......"Missed!"
Pedaling ..."Reload binder gun."
Pedaling ..."Aim."
Pedaling ..."Fire!"

"Thwat!"

"That's gotta hurt."


Mont-Black-Phantom
"Although some minor variants now compete in frequency, on the whole
Minnesota speech features such dominant Northern terms as andirons, pail,
mouth organ (harmonica), comforter (tied and filled bedcover), wishbone,
clingstone peach, sweet corn, angleworm (earthworm), darning needle or
mosquito hawk (dragonfly), and sick to the stomach. Minnesotans call the
grass strip between street and sidewalk the boulevard and a rubber band a
rubber binder, and many cook coffee when they brew it. Three-fourths of a
sample population spoke root with the vowel of put; one third, through
school influence, pronounced /ah/ in aunt instead of the usual Northern
short /a/, as in pants. Many younger speakers pronounce caller and collar
alike."

Having fun now - from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_band_gun#Types_of_rubber_band_gun
"The rubber-band Gatling gun is a fearsome weapon...."

"Constructed almost wholly of wood, the Gatling gun usually has between 8
and 12 barrels, each of which can take up to twelve rubber bands on a
similar mechanism to the repeater pistol. This means a twelve-barrel Gatling
gun using twelve-shot repeater mechanisms can fire 144 rubber bands
automatically."

Cool.

("David Kazdan" wrote)
We fussed over the notion for several minutes that we had a car with a
full gas tank and a lot of readily available energy in its battery, and we
couldn't figure out how to light a safe fire. What to do?


Now I'm curious. Would the match have lit touching it on the exhaust
manifold - under the hood?


Montblack

who cares? wrote:

In article om,
wrote:

MATCHES

The ability to make fire is fundamental to survival and, all else being
equal (never a safe bet :-) the handiest way to do so is to simply
strike a match. But based on the comments I received not everyone is
aware that matches come in two basic flavors and a variety of sizes.



What about carrying one of those disposable cigarrette lighters that you
can
buy at walmart for less than a dollar? You could put two or three of them
in an airplane if you like backups.
Do you really want to carry one of those leaky propane "bombs" in your close
confine airplane with you? Maybe Maybe not!
High altitude pressurized gas could be interesting. No experience here, just
wondering out loud (can you hear my gears turning!).
John

My survival kit has some "lifeboat matches" that are waterproof and
strike anywhere and burn much hotter than kitchen matches. I also
carry a metal match (flint with magneseum--you scrape some of the
magneseum onto your tinder and use the flint to light it.

wrote:

As with ability to make fire, when it comes to survival the need for a
knife -- for the ability to cut things, beginning with your own safety
harness -- is fundamental. Experience has shown that a pocket-knife
that is HABITUALLY carried is more practical than a special-purpose
'survival knife' that is not. The key issue here is not the type of
knife nor its size but the fact you always have it with you.

Hmmm.

I've learned that disagreeing with veedubber is not to be undertaken
lightly.

I *habitually* carry a leatherman wave on my belt. It occasionally
gets me an odd look at a meeting, but I tell them that my dying father
bought it for me after 9/11 and asked me to carry it every day. I also
carry an LED flashlight and a small Swiss army knife on my keyring.

I can make fire with a fire bow and my shoelace, but I think I'm going
to look at a little magnesium/flint firemaker for my keychain as well.

Montblack wrote:
("David Kazdan" wrote)
We fussed over the notion for several minutes that we had a car with a
full gas tank and a lot of readily available energy in its battery,
and we couldn't figure out how to light a safe fire. What to do?


Now I'm curious. Would the match have lit touching it on the exhaust
manifold - under the hood?


Montblack

Don't cars come with cigarette lighters any more???

Tony

In article .com,
"Richard Riley" wrote:

I also carry an LED flashlight and a small Swiss army knife
on my keyring.

So do I!!! To which I add a flat ACR whistle and BIC lighter with duct
tape wrapped around it.

On 8 Jun 2006 09:18:59 -0700, wrote:

To All:

About a month ago I posted a message having to do with aircraft crash
survival in which I touched on the ability to make a fire, and the
features found in a good survival knife. The post produced the usual
comments some of which were rather surprising and may be of interest to
some of you.


fires are good. make one in the australian outback and eventually
someone will show up to find out why it got lit. ....thats the theory.

if you really want to survive carry water.

a sheet of transparent plastic over a hole full of scrub with a stone
in the middle with a can underneath will collect enough water over
time in the sun to keep you alive.

when I'm travelling over the gaffa I carry all that stuff ....but I
attend to the maintenance first so that the aircraft will never give
me a problem.
Stealth Pilot

Stealth Pilot wrote:
if you really want to survive carry water.

of course, if you really, REALLY want to survive, carry a 406 mhz ELT
with a built in GPS, and lithium ion batteries.

And for the really, really REALLY folks, there's satellite phones.

john smith wrote:
In article .com,
"Richard Riley" wrote:


I also carry an LED flashlight and a small Swiss army knife
on my keyring.


So do I!!! To which I add a flat ACR whistle and BIC lighter with duct
tape wrapped around it.

That must be SOME KEYRING!!