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Air Force fighter pilots train in tactic that scopes out enemy targets, By Franklin Fisher, Stars and Stripes
Air Force fighter pilots train in tactic that scopes out enemy
targets, By Franklin Fisher, Stars and Stripes (EXCERPT) Pacific edition, Monday, June 7, 2004 OSAN AIR BASE, South Korea — The U.S. Air Force in South Korea is honing a tactic that sends fighter planes behind enemy lines to find and destroy mobile ground targets. Called “Killer Scout,” and dating to the 1991 Gulf War, it differs from another air-to-ground mission known as close-air support, in which ground troops call in fighter support. “It’s very proactive,” said Lt. Col. Rob Givens, commander of Kunsan Air Base’s 35th Fighter Squadron. “We’re not waiting for them to make contact with our ground forces. We’re going after them.” Since February, the 7th Air Force has trained pilots in Killer Scout with an eye on the terrain and other conditions that would likely surface in an armed conflict on the Korean Peninsula. “The 8th Fighter Wing is specializing in this now, getting the pr... U.S. and friendly nation laws prohibit fully reproducing copyrighted material. In abidance with our laws this report cannot be provided in its entirety. However, you can read it in full today, 07 Jun 2004, at the following URL. (COMBINE the following lines into your web browser.) The subject/content of this report is not necessarily the viewpoint of the distributing Library. This report is provided for your information and discussion. http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?...&article=22636 --------------------------- Otis Willie Associate Librarian The American War Library http://www.americanwarlibrary.com |
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:55:36 GMT, Otis Willie
wrote: Air Force fighter pilots train in tactic that scopes out enemy targets, By Franklin Fisher, Stars and Stripes (EXCERPT) Pacific edition, Monday, June 7, 2004 OSAN AIR BASE, South Korea — The U.S. Air Force in South Korea is honing a tactic that sends fighter planes behind enemy lines to find and destroy mobile ground targets. Called “Killer Scout,” and dating to the 1991 Gulf War, it differs from another air-to-ground mission known as close-air support, in which ground troops call in fighter support. Gosh, maybe we weren't doing armed recce in SEA. And maybe they didn't do it in P-47s in WW II. Or, maybe it's Fast FACing that wasn't being done? Or was it called BAI? I forget. I know, let's make it round and call it a wheel. Don't think it's been invented before. Anyone got patent paperwork? Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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Ed Rasimus wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:55:36 GMT, Otis Willie wrote: Air Force fighter pilots train in tactic that scopes out enemy targets, By Franklin Fisher, Stars and Stripes (EXCERPT) Pacific edition, Monday, June 7, 2004 OSAN AIR BASE, South Korea ? The U.S. Air Force in South Korea is honing a tactic that sends fighter planes behind enemy lines to find and destroy mobile ground targets. Called ?Killer Scout,? and dating to the 1991 Gulf War, it differs from another air-to-ground mission known as close-air support, in which ground troops call in fighter support. Gosh, maybe we weren't doing armed recce in SEA. And maybe they didn't do it in P-47s in WW II. Or, maybe it's Fast FACing that wasn't being done? Or was it called BAI? I forget. I know, let's make it round and call it a wheel. Don't think it's been invented before. Anyone got patent paperwork? Different armies have different reconaiseance ideas. The British SAS's role for instance was to stay behined enemy lines and while not being detected report on enemy opperations. (their celebrated fighting abillity is a last use tactic; they are not commandos). It is the same with some types of spy flights. German tactics dating from the Franco Prussain war through to the second world war also included fighting for information. Special reconaisence groups, while trying to be stealthy, would attack the ememy thereby guaging their response, disposition as well as inflicting casualities. This also had the effect of confusing the enemy who did not know what was a major attack or not. In some cases these probing attacks would turn into a major attack if a weakness was found. Bismarks remark to Moltke "lets see how big the table cloth is that we've pulled upon" during one of the battles of the Franco Prussain war sums up their fluid style of warfare. It seems to me that the idea of an armed scout is just an extension of this and possibly driven by the need to locate SCUD like IRBM. It also seems an idea that would only work in an environment of total aerial superiority. How would it be possible to have the performance to avoid destruction and the armament to cause harm in one vehicle? Probaly will be armed with a light but powerfull guided missile. Raptor would be too big and Maverick too small. Martell seems about right but it has been out of production for 35 years. The perfect platform: Possibly the SEAD Tornados or F15E type aircraft loaded with sensors. |
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"Eunometic" wrote in message om... The perfect platform: Possibly the SEAD Tornados or F15E type aircraft loaded with sensors. Or a UAV. |
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"Vaughn" wrote in message ...
"Eunometic" wrote in message om... The perfect platform: Possibly the SEAD Tornados or F15E type aircraft loaded with sensors. Or a UAV. or howabout a helicopter gunship? |
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"Prowlus" wrote in message om... "Vaughn" wrote in message ... "Eunometic" wrote in message om... The perfect platform: Possibly the SEAD Tornados or F15E type aircraft loaded with sensors. Or a UAV. or howabout a helicopter gunship? Yea, just ask the Apache's how well they did during OIF. They couldn't seem to get above the AAA to be effective. |
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"Eunometic" wrote in message om... Ed Rasimus wrote in message . .. On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:55:36 GMT, Otis Willie wrote: Air Force fighter pilots train in tactic that scopes out enemy targets, By Franklin Fisher, Stars and Stripes (EXCERPT) Pacific edition, Monday, June 7, 2004 OSAN AIR BASE, South Korea ? The U.S. Air Force in South Korea is honing a tactic that sends fighter planes behind enemy lines to find and destroy mobile ground targets. Called ?Killer Scout,? and dating to the 1991 Gulf War, it differs from another air-to-ground mission known as close-air support, in which ground troops call in fighter support. Gosh, maybe we weren't doing armed recce in SEA. And maybe they didn't do it in P-47s in WW II. Or, maybe it's Fast FACing that wasn't being done? Or was it called BAI? I forget. I know, let's make it round and call it a wheel. Don't think it's been invented before. Anyone got patent paperwork? Different armies have different reconaiseance ideas. The British SAS's role for instance was to stay behined enemy lines and while not being detected report on enemy opperations. (their celebrated fighting abillity is a last use tactic; they are not commandos). It is the same with some types of spy flights. German tactics dating from the Franco Prussain war through to the second world war also included fighting for information. Special reconaisence groups, while trying to be stealthy, would attack the ememy thereby guaging their response, disposition as well as inflicting casualities. This also had the effect of confusing the enemy who did not know what was a major attack or not. In some cases these probing attacks would turn into a major attack if a weakness was found. Bismarks remark to Moltke "lets see how big the table cloth is that we've pulled upon" during one of the battles of the Franco Prussain war sums up their fluid style of warfare. It seems to me that the idea of an armed scout is just an extension of this and possibly driven by the need to locate SCUD like IRBM. It also seems an idea that would only work in an environment of total aerial superiority. How would it be possible to have the performance to avoid destruction and the armament to cause harm in one vehicle? Probaly will be armed with a light but powerfull guided missile. Raptor would be too big and Maverick too small. Martell seems about right but it has been out of production for 35 years. The perfect platform: Possibly the SEAD Tornados or F15E type aircraft loaded with sensors. F-15Es with 9xGBU-12s each and a Litening target pod worked pretty well during OIF. |
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message ... On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:55:36 GMT, Otis Willie wrote: Air Force fighter pilots train in tactic that scopes out enemy targets, By Franklin Fisher, Stars and Stripes (EXCERPT) Pacific edition, Monday, June 7, 2004 OSAN AIR BASE, South Korea - The U.S. Air Force in South Korea is honing a tactic that sends fighter planes behind enemy lines to find and destroy mobile ground targets. Called "Killer Scout," and dating to the 1991 Gulf War, it differs from another air-to-ground mission known as close-air support, in which ground troops call in fighter support. Gosh, maybe we weren't doing armed recce in SEA. And maybe they didn't do it in P-47s in WW II. Or, maybe it's Fast FACing that wasn't being done? Or was it called BAI? I forget. I know, let's make it round and call it a wheel. Don't think it's been invented before. Anyone got patent paperwork? Oh it gets better Ed. The rest of the world is calling this same thing SCAR now, for Strike Coordination and Reconnaissance. Too funny.... |
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Can't they say "ATTACK" Pilots anymore? if those "fighter" pilots are
pounding grounmd targets there are no longer defined as true "Fighter Pukes" |
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